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 Posted 04/15/2012  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If spot silver remained steady at or around $35? Yeah, that would greatly slow down or stop my buying for a while.

HOWEVER, if we're at QE4 six to twelve months from now and the outlook worsens, then a $35 spot might start looking really cheap, too.

There are just so many factors to consider, it's hard to make a blanket statement on buying or holding.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're right, CW. I can think of literally twenty reasons for silver to rise or fall and it all boils down to a total guess in the end. Regular Joes like us don't get to know the answers to those kinds of questions. Only the big boys can say for sure and they aren't talking, at least not to me.
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 Posted 04/16/2012  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed! This is one of those classic cases where those who know aren't talking and those who are talking don't know.


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HOWEVER, if we're at QE4 six to twelve months from now and the outlook worsens, then a $35 spot might start looking really cheap, too.

True enough. The problem here is that the Fed is getting a lot trickier with their descriptions of what is and what is not QE. This whole thing about doing the currency swaps with the ECB still has me scratching my head. It looked a lot like taking money from one pocket, putting it into another pocket, and then saying, "See, all fixed!". Huh? What exactly was fixed by doing that? Nothing that I can see. It's just more of the same financial slight of hand that helped get us into this mess in the 1st place. Doing more of what caused a problem rarely, if ever, solves it.

I wish that I could say that some really smart people are addressing the US, European, and world financial problems but I can't. They seem to be ing big-time. By wasting a lot of time via can kicking, they have virtually guaranteed that the solutions to these problems either won't be found at all or they will be as painful and dragged out as possible. Some choice!
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 Posted 04/16/2012  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Robbing Peter to pay Paul!
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 Posted 04/16/2012  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Worse.
They are issuing debt and calling it hard money in a scheme to rob both Peter and paul
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 Posted 04/16/2012  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know. That rock that's painted Gold and pushed off as Gold!
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 Posted 04/17/2012  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They are issuing debt and calling it hard money in a scheme to rob both Peter and paul


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 Posted 04/18/2012  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well sure I wish I new how much longer our economy can hold on? I agree seems like all anyone does around the world and in the US is add to the problem.

I myself feel like there is no stopping the melt down and the USA is heading for some inevitable hard choices they can only add so many band-ads. No ones to make the hard enviable choices that are gong to have to be made sooner or later.

If our government could just stop borrowing, giving away billions we must borrow, stop all the fraud in the stealing of billions of tax dollars then no entitlements will have to be reduced but something has to change BIG time and more sooner than later they are going to have to deal with this.

Sure wish I new how much tome was left though but no one knows. I really feel our own government knows hard times are coming and has been preparing for unrest BIG time in the USA.
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 Posted 04/18/2012  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bruce... I agree with everything in your post and would also like to have a crystal ball that would let me in on what the future holds. Unfortunately, there just doesn't seem to be one available. Given that, then it is up to us to do some general prep that will (hopefully) work well enough in whatever situation develops. One scenario that is almost never mentioned, but which seems to be more and more likely with time, is a military take-over of the civilian government under the auspices of returning the country to its founding principles. We seem to have gotten rather far away from those, especially of late, and this is causing a lot of political, social, and economic problems. I'm not saying that this is what I am hoping for or that it is the best solution but it certainly could be A solution. Although it would likely be pretty messy, I would rather see this happen than to have to put up with King Obama I.

As to PMs, political and economic uncertainty and collapse should favor them as the only remaining and viable form of exchange for goods and services. I think that a lot of people would be amazed at just how quickly these would come out of the woodwork and be accepted as the real money that they are.
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 Posted 04/18/2012  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are frightening times. With all the govt watching us and trying to control our every move the conspiracy theories are not that but real. I don't like to write too much on it since probably all is watched tracked and filed.
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 Posted 04/19/2012  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't like getting into the Democrat/Republican dichotomy issue, but it's important to remember that all this extra surveillance and government intrusion didn't begin in 2008. Too many of us get distracted by the Dems vs. Reps and their ostensible differences. IMO, that's a red herring. A mechanism used to divide and keep us conquered. Think about how divided we are today compared to just thirty years ago? Surveys from that era typically showed that the vast majority of Americans considered themselves politically moderate, centrists. Now we're either Fox News loving Republicans or Obama worshiping Democrats, and both sides are indoctrinated on a daily basis to detest the other. But ask yourself why? What was the catalyst for people drifting to the very edges of the political spectrum from the center? Red state and blue state? When did we stop being plain old Americans? And who benefits from all the divisiveness? More importantly, what's the goal? The beginning of the end of the republic will be traced by the historians of the future to 2001. Homeland Security. Patriot Act. TSA. FEMA. Operation TIPS. ECHELON. All well constructed cogs that make up our quiet police state. In many ways, I'm afraid the terrorists have already won and "we the people" lost, big time. How? Our government took advantage of a crisis to exert a new level of control on its citizens that was never theirs to take.

And how does this related to PMs? It's hard to collect silver with lead on your mind.
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 Posted 04/19/2012  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes so true. That's why getting back to the simple Constitution and getting govt out of medicine and other places they don't belong is SO important. So worried about people not being able to reproduce to allow free pills that POLUTE our waterways! So much for green! Just a silly example that passed through my thoughts
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 Posted 04/19/2012  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things must happen:

Voters must understand that everything "given" them has to be paid for, and there's only three options:
  • New taxes
  • Cut back something else
  • Print worthless (and worth less) money.


Politicians have to understand that buying votes has the same consequences.
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 Posted 04/19/2012  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes and funny that voter I D seems to be the only place you don't have to have to be searched I D ed or questioned! They seem to think that is invasion of privacy while hands in the pants and xray at airports is so wonderful! And all the tracking is ok as well. We are probably watched here!
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 Posted 04/19/2012  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still waiting for silver to drop back to around $30 so I can buy (with my wife's approval) another monster box of silver. Perhaps Canadian Maple Leafs this time around. Sadly, the way silver is performing today, I may have missed the boat...
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