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Blank Coin With No Raised Edges

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Weighs 2.9 grams. A little smaller in diameter than a memorial or wheat.

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Is there any hint of an image on either side, or any wear marks on the piece? I am not sure, but there appears to be remnants of a raised edge in the first image, at the top.
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Looks like a slug knocked out of an electrical box - except for two things: slugs are usually steel, and they usually have two tabs where they were attached to the box.

Okay, that was a lot of help. Never mind.
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Please show a shot of the disk side on. What I am seeing in the first pic,along the edge is burrs.Burrs could be from grinding.
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Where did you find this? Just curious if you got it in a bag of pennies or something.
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Sorry it took so long to answer back. I took two views back and front. I took them with a 60X usb microscope. I purchased this on ebay. That was before I started looking at the forum. I would probably would not purchased it today. I forget what I paid for it. It was advertised as a blank pennny with no rims. The sides are the same color as the obverse and reverse. It does not appear to have been altered.
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2nd view

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I am going out on a limb and saying you have purchased 2.9 grams of copper.

Make a game of it. Keep it in your pocket and bet drinks with it. Flip the coin and say Loser buys the next round! Then before the other guy can answer and it's still spinning in the air yell "not heads!". Then show it to him and argue you are right*.

*not responsible for punches to the nose.
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This irem is a blank, not a flan.
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Slug. A flan would be the same size or possibly even slightly larger than a finished coin I believe.
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The term 'planchet' could be used instead of 'flan'.
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Could this have been cut out with a dime die? They are about the same size. The blank is just a hair bigger in diameter than the dime. If the rim would be raised on the blank, they would be about the same seze.

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I don't think it would be larger than a cent before being struck because once a coin is struck it will expand in size to the size of the collar. If it were bigger than the collar already it wouldn't fit so a unstruck planchet should be smaller. Even though I am no error expert what I believe you have is a unstruck planchet that was hung in the hopper and dislodged after the fact. It didn't even go through the edging process that turns the edges. There are error experts on this forum so please do not take my word for it, this is just my opinion of what I see in the pictures
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It could be a planchet for a foreign coin. Does the US mint still make foreign coins?
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It is too small to be a cent blank, both size and weight. Dent blanks start slightly larger than finished coins and are reduced in diameter by the upsetting mill that raises the "proto rim" prior to striking. Planchets are not that much smaller than finished coins, if any smaller at all. It is possibly a blank for a foreign coin, but almost certainly not one for any U.S. coin. If it is about the same thickness as a cent then it is probably copper or mostly copper, based solely on color.
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The term 'planchet' could be used instead of 'flan'.

Planchet is the term for it after the rim is upset and it is ready for striking.


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Planchets are not that much smaller than finished coins, if any smaller at all.

Planchets are slightly smaller so they can drop easily into the coining chamber. If they were the same size any slight tipping of the planchet as it dropped in would cause it to jam and result in mis-strikes.
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