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 Posted 02/04/2012  09:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do I have here...going through a bag of 5 cents...near the end , have only found 1 1972 and just found this !

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 Posted 02/04/2012  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be an Australian five cent piece.
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 Posted 02/04/2012  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the side/edge view I would say this has been done after the reeding was applied to the coin,which would indicate PMD/post mint damage.
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02/04/2012 10:03 am
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 Posted 02/04/2012  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get the feeling that it may have been under another blank which was stamped and the pressure has flattened it ...other side has no damage which makes me think it was still in the collar
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 Posted 02/04/2012  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think another blank being involved would mean that the whole surface of the coin would be affected rather than just the edge.
I would lean towards PMD because I dont know of any errors like that and can not think of any other way for that to occur.
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 Posted 02/04/2012  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Uncertain of the cause, but definitely PMD.

Looks like it been 'touched up' with sandpaper, cement or similar rough surface. Possibly even got stuck in a clothes dryer, that would account for the rim's appearance.

Some of our poor old coins cop a beating don't they?
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 Posted 02/04/2012  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a well circulated partial collar error.
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 Posted 02/05/2012  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nancy, what puzzles me is that the rim on the other side is perfectly normal which leads me to believe it was still in the collar when this happened...if it was a dryer or something else, you would think both sides would be affected ?
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 Posted 02/05/2012  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse looks to me to be very similar to Ausjack's coin, here, which I speculated may have been caused by being placed on an extremely hot surface (over 1350 deg C) until it started to melt. If so, his was fried on both sides, yours only on one.
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 Posted 02/05/2012  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Sap...I am a potter and I know what would happen if a coin was subjected to that temperature. The whole coin would be affected but this one is still normal on the obverse , so it's not been done by heat. Yes, mine is similar to Ausjack's (centre pic), so I presume they both suffered the same fate, but it's not heat. And as you can see the central part of the coin has not been affected, so its been done by pressure on the outer edge in one hit.

Next please?
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 Posted 02/05/2012  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.
I will have to look into "thesandpit"s theory some more.
I am pretty sure I had one like this and threw it back thinking that it was just PMD...
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 Posted 02/05/2012  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe you should ask thesandpit ( Peter ) if you can send it to him for closer inspection,then you'd know for sure one way or the other & we all might learn something new.
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Normally I would bow down to the opinion of the far more knowledgeable thesandpit, but in this instance I have to disagree.

Look at how little wear there is on the Obverse. How can it be a ‘well circulated' anything, with the reverse copping all the wear, and the obv hardly any.

There are quite noticeable gouge marks all over the rim on the reverse. If it is so well circulated to cause that much damage to just one side, it is a most unfortunate coin. I still say PMD!


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 Posted 02/05/2012  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aahhaa! just had a thought....could it have been 2 blanks and the top rim has been flattened in the process, which would explain all the flattened rim which has uniform pattern on it
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 Posted 02/05/2012  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if it was 2 blanks woudnt one side have no markings?
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 Posted 02/05/2012  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no...it is anchored to the bottom one . ?
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