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Nice brockage Goatie but I have some bad news for you. It's almost certainly British and not Australian. You can tell this from the alignment of the I in ELIZABETH and the I in GRATIA. On Australian QE2 pennies minted with a Perth Obverse Die the I in ELIZ points between rim beads(actually just to the left) and the I of GRATIA points between two rim beads. On coins minted with a Melbourne obverse the I of ELIZ points directly at a bead as does the I in GRATIA. On your coin obverse the I of ELIZ points between beads and the I of GRATIA points at a bead so it doesn't match either obverse. Below are images of a Perth and Melbourne obverse and your coin. Perth  Melbourne  Your Coin  Edited by markn
06/11/2012 10:08 pm
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And here's the obverse of a 1967 English penny minted by The Royal Mint. You'll note that the alignment matches the brockage.  |
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I have some bad news for you. It's almost certainly British and not Australian That's rather interesting. I would not consider it "bad' news though; anything to help clarify the provenance of an interesting coin is good. I would accept this coin in a flash, regardless of country of origin. I christen it the " Double Headed, Through the Looking Glass" penny. If you have already named it Goatie then please ignore this paragraph. Jeff |
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That's rather interesting. I would not consider it "bad' news though; anything to help clarify the provenance of an interesting coin is good.
I would accept this coin in a flash, regardless of country of origin.
I christen it the "Double Headed, Through the Looking Glass" penny. If you have already named it Goatie then please ignore this paragraph.
Jeff I'd call it horrific news if Goatie had bought that coin at an Australian auction AS an Australian brockage because it would easily realise $1000+. A brockage penny of Great Britain is only worth $150-200 in comparison. Edited by markn
06/12/2012 02:49 am
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Well,I hope Goatie that you did buy it as what it is. & thanks Markn another very useful bit of information.  & nice Melbourne Obverse. Edited by appleangel07
06/12/2012 04:19 am
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All good. I got a good deal for it.
Markn; why would an Australian Brockage be worth sooo much more than a British?
Is it a supply & demand thing?
Thanks for the full clarification.
AppleAngel: I would love a George V brockage which is up, but it will get very steep. There wasn't much in the way of; Mis-strikes, brockages or major clipped planchets.
Jeff: How about "Two headed tasmanian queen"?
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why would an Australian Brockage be worth sooo much more than a British? It is something I have often wondered about. Why are British, New Zealand and pretty much any other nations coins more expensive than ours? I had assumed it was the small mintages in the early years when our population was small. But perhaps thats not the only reason.  |
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Markn; why would an Australian Brockage be worth sooo much more than a British?
Is it a supply & demand thing? Yes supply and demand. It's no different here, half penny and 3d errors are generally the least valuable because they are the most common. Good florin errors command the best prices because they are the scarcest. Early British errors get better prices than 20th century stuff. It's not confined to brockages, decimal British coins on wrong planchets that barely get $100 while the same error for an Australian decimal would be $300+. US errors are similar, grossly off centre 1c coins are worth just a dollar or two and brockage or die cap 1c coins from prior to 2008 can be had very cheap because there's so many of them. |
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It is something I have often wondered about. Why are British, New Zealand and pretty much any other nations coins more expensive than ours? I had assumed it was the small mintages in the early years when our population was small. But perhaps thats not the only reason. It's my experience, with errors at least, that this isn't the case at all. Generic Australian errors are generally worth quite a bit more than the US, GB, or NZ equivalents. Of course there's always cases where this doesn't hold true. Scarce errors on certain US denominations get excellent prices. For example pretty much anything on a 50c in the US gets great money. Here's a good example of something that if found on two 10c coins here would be worth 2000+: http://fredweinberg.com/inventory/item.php?ID=5840 |
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Picked this up yesterday Australian 50 Cent Coin 2008 Elizabeth II Australia Year Reverse Australian Coat of Arms  |
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Hi Bas, Are you in australia ? or did you find it in new zealand ? or did you buy it on ebay ? Too many questions I know but I have one more LOL,are you collecting Aussie coins of all denominations or just the 50 cent ? |
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LOL, I forgot why I was here when started asking poor Bas all those questions LOL. Here is my lastest acquisition.   The obverse shot ^^^ does'nt do the detail of the coin justice so I took this one just to show the detail in the queens hair & wreath .  |
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I have bought of him before and not been disappointed that's why I bid big on these
I love these commemorative florins and they are soo hard to get hold of in unc or better.
Spewing  Got the florins today and they are whizzed,dipped and nowhere near UNC  |
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Sorry to hear trout. Can you take pictures or is it too painful? Are you planning on sending them back?
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