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 Posted 05/11/2012  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, I'm done with silver for awhile (at least large purchases). We're thinking of buying some gold if the price drops a bit. Not too much, though, since (a) it's so darn expensive and (b) the wife and I both feel that silver has a much greater potential for growth. Silver purchased today for $30 could plausibly be worth $100 some day in the near future. But will gold purchased for $1600 ever be worth $5300? Hmmmmm....

I did buy a one-ounce Australian platinum platypus last year when it dropped below $1500/ounce, just to have one. I really have no idea what the long term potential is for platinum, though. Ever since it fell below gold I've been very confused.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would love to buy from Goldmart. But I'm in Canada, and the shipping kills the deal.
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Not only the low mintage T, but I like the frosted look of their coins an reverse proof designs. An their coins are very detailed and raised often. These are the little things one really can't appreciate until you have an example of both in hand, as a picture just does not tell the entire story, never does....
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 Posted 05/11/2012  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also on the subject of Lunar Perth, I noticed at Provident they have 2012 one oz. Lunar coins priced at $79.99, and the LARGER two oz. variety is a penny less at $79.98, crazy. No way you can tell me anyone with any sense on this planet, that it is better to have 1 oz. of silver verses 2, just crazy....

I wish I was in position to get a bulk order of the 2 oz. an just set on them for a while before silver goes back up. As know doubt there will be a day when they sell for much more then 80 each....
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05/11/2012 4:15 pm
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I believe the 1 oz. dragon have a mintage of 300000, where as the 2 oz. dragons can be massed produced to meet demand. Because the 1 oz. variety is technically rarer, or may be in the future, people are willing to pay more for them.
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Well that makes sense, mintage....

It is funny how 2 oz. rounds seem to get little respect as I have seen some great low prices on 2 oz rounds or bars. But I just see it as stacking twice as fast as 1 oz. rounds, basic simple numbers. An one can never go wrong in just pushing for overall weight...

It is real easy to get in the mind set that certain silver items will always command a real high premium over spot which gives one more justification to pay a bit more for the items to acquire, assuming again it is gonna sell for even higher over spot price, which has little to no baring on again this great items high premium value. Right, wrong! Does not always play out that way, even though sometimes it will indeed get way over....

So my point to the last paragraph, always better to be safe then sorry I figure now and push for the silver weight, verses the 2 grand wolverine coin. But that is just me, to each their own in their own endeavors I always say. I may swing 180 degrees in the other direction by this time next month....
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05/11/2012 10:34 pm
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I'm always a bit leery about buying bullion coins at a high premium due to "limited mintage" or "high collectability." The silver value will always be there, but who knows if the premium will still be there 10 or 20 years down the line. Maybe it will be, but I can't shake the feeling that, unlike historical numismatic coins that have a long history of maintaining significant value over silver content, all of this nonsense about paying double silver value for a coin that was minted purely as bullion might just end up being a passing fad.

Having said that, I did buy five of the 25th Anniversary ASE sets purely because I figured they would go up in value and stay up in value, despite the fact that they are also "just" bullion coins, so I'm obviously not being consistent here. Maybe it's just because the ASEs are American coins and, being American, I'm biased. Other than that, though, I'm willing to pay high premiums for coins I want to add to my collection but refuse to pay much over melt for something I want just for silver ownership. That's why, when I decided to buy a 2012 Australian Lunar Dragon silver coin I went with the 1 kilo version (which had very low premium over melt) as opposed to the 1 ounce version (which cost about 3 times melt). I was buying it to have some silver -- not because I collect Lunar Dragon coins.
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I don't think you are gonna see the 25th anniversary sets get any more valuable IMO. To be honest I am glad I got out of mine at $3700. In my current situation I am challenged with a lack of space and that mint box was entirely to big for me to store. Plus with my OCD I would have been a nut an opened it. (JK) Either way I am glad I got one perfect set and the cash for those.

Barry next time you make a silver buy check out Scottsdale Stackers. Shipping is free above $500 and the silver is running $3 over but they let you use a CC so with the rewards they very cheap.
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No way you can tell me anyone with any sense on this planet, that it is better to have 1 oz. of silver verses 2, just crazy....

Sure we can, Hawk. It happens all the time. Just think of what a Carson City Mint 1889 Morgan silver dollar is worth compared to two very common 1921 Morgan silver dollars. BIG difference there in value.

http://www.usrarecoininvestments.co...n_dollar.htm
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Did you pull the trigger on another box yet? This price is making things real interesting thats for sure
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I'm all done with monster boxes for now. I might buy a $100 face value bag of 90% silver coins if the price drops a bit more, though...
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I'm all done with monster boxes for now. I might buy a $100 face value bag of 90% silver coins if the price drops a bit more, though...

I keep hearing the siren song of 10 rolls of VF Walking Liberty halves at APMEX.
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Ed B,

Don't do that shop around a bit. I usually get a ton of Walkers in my local deals and have a hard time trading them because of the their wear.

I just bought a 50 oz engelhard but paid a significant premium. If I weren't waiting for the dust to clear I would be buying 10 oz stackers or ASE via gold mart. Eagles at $30 are almost a no brainer to me.
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Don't do that shop around a bit. I usually get a ton of Walkers in my local deals and have a hard time trading them because of the their wear.

Yes, heavily worn Walkers are available in many places but I prefer the really nice looking ones with minimal wear. To my eye, that is the VF and up grades. I have seen a few BUs too but they were really marked up in price. I like the Walkers a lot but not so much that I will pay the same or more as an ASE costs. I am trying to create a collection that is nice looking but that does not cost an arm and both legs.
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Re: milk spots. I've heard that silver wipes will take them off, as will a soft eraser or cloudy ammonia. I bought Weinman Silver Wipes to try it out on a bunch of Philharmonics Kitco sent me last year covered in milk spots but haven't gone out to dig them up yet. Will report back if there's interest.
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