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 Posted 07/02/2012  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are also diversion safes. Real cans of shaving cream, soda, soup, etc. that are hollowed out so you can store valuables. I once saw one in a store and wondered why they wanted $20 for a bottle of soda! Amazon has them a lot cheaper, by the way.
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 Posted 07/02/2012  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheReno to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All good ideas.

I think I will stick to what I have now. A metal cash box. My current goal is to get that filled, well hidden. Then fill another one. Repeat cycle. I have a cigar box that would appear to be my main box, Will have upto 10 OZ.

-Reno
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 Posted 07/02/2012  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I might have a new challenge. I am most likely going to have a new girlfriend.

Yes, that will be a significant challenge. My thought is that unless she has a genuine "need to know" about this, there is no reason to tell her. Ex-girl friends are notorious about absconding with anything they can get their hands on. Be VERY careful with this as your current girl friend can become your ex-girl friend VERY easily and quickly.

I haven't even told my daughter about my silver hoard... because she does not need to know.
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 Posted 07/10/2012  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem with those sodas/shaving cream safes is that some dope will want to drink/use the product, or worse, throw it in the trash!

Or, put your valuables in the trash can. There's a famous case of a woman who thought she heard a robber coming so she stashed her valuable diamonds in the trash can and forgot about them later. Imagine digging up a cut diamond. I would probably faint.
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 Posted 07/10/2012  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StashTreasure to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like some of your ideas guys, my personal favorite is the worlds heaviest box of national geographics and a volume of shakespeare,but what if they want to read them?
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 Posted 07/10/2012  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A hollowed out Bible then? Chances are pretty small that thieves will be taking a break with "the good book" anytime soon.
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 Posted 07/10/2012  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I think I will stick to what I have now. A metal cash box. My current goal is to get that filled, well hidden. Then fill another one. Repeat cycle. I have a cigar box that would appear to be my main box, Will have upto 10 OZ.

-Reno"

I think this is a sound idea. I have done about the same. I have small lock boxes that are bolted to shelves/walls, then a cardboard box with the bottom cut out to place over it, marked "Year Books" or "1990's Tax forms". Other boxes stored on top.
I did a search on line for "places people hide money", seems like in cut out books, back of closet, and in toilet tank topped the lists. Gonna make me a fake PM stack in a cigar box and put it in the closet behind my shirts!
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 Posted 07/11/2012  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ed_b: Why that would probably be a good hiding place I don't know if I could cut up the good book like.
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 Posted 07/11/2012  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There are also diversion safes.

Indeed and they can be quite useful. So can a little cash and a few coins in your sock drawer, for that matter. If a thief can find a few hundred dollars quickly, he is less likely to hang around and risk getting caught by a returning home-owner. Smash, grab, and run is the typical burglar MO.


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I think I will stick to what I have now. A metal cash box.

Yeah, my Dad had one of those when I was a kid. When I was 10, I got adventurous and opened his metal cash box with a metal nail file. Took me all of about 3 minutes. My goal was not to take anything but just to see what was kept in their. Of course, curiosity had its price!


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Why that would probably be a good hiding place I don't know if I could cut up the good book like.

I can understand that. For many folks, a bible is a sacred object. It is for me as well but I also understand that there would be no malice or anger in my heart while doing it. I would be doing it to gain protection from those who do evil and not mocking God or religion.
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I can understand that. For many folks, a bible is a sacred object. It is for me as well but I also understand that there would be no malice or anger in my heart while doing it. I would be doing it to gain protection from those who do evil and not mocking God or religion.


I remember watching a monk once told a story about burning a wooden Buddha to kept himself warm rather then prying to Buddha for warmth, as he explain that Buddha are in every person heart.
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 Posted 07/13/2012  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That monk seems wise as well as practical. There are times in our lives when what we are doing is less important than why we are doing it. A bad thing done for truly good reasons is likely to be dealt with much more mercifully.
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 Posted 07/14/2012  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not for cutting up any books really, but you can find older books in good shape at Library used book sales and thrift stores. I found a very good safe-book at my local library book sale for 50 cents. Heavy, thick book hard bound with almost no wear. Book was an over seas travel guide but out dated, published in the 1960's. Cut center pages out to the size of a US Bill and still had plenty of weight to feel like a real book.
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 Posted 07/14/2012  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your worst enemy is you. You will tell just one person that is all it takes. You may even show some to your guest when they visit. You may talk about PM's as a great investment over beers at a bar.

Word of mouth is your downfall.

Other than random break-ins most are targeted for something that is known.

Personally I like a floor safe because if they can see if they can defeat it in under 5 minutes.

In war time loose lips sunk ships. In peace time loose lips can get you killed.

It is far easier to rob PM's when you are home and they have a gun in your wife's or children mouth.
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1st rule of thumb: keep everything on the down low. Especially friends and family who tend to brag and blab. Leave envelopes addressed to specific people in case something happens. I tend to hide everything PM, gold goes inside the SDB, everything else is in boxes underneath old clothes, etc. Keeping a few shiny pieces in an obvious location as a decoy is a good idea. I have a clear acrylic box with a handful of damaged ASEs, some used large cents and copper medals and some obviously circulated 90% silver and worn out silver certificates that I play with on my desk. If someone absconded with those, it wouldn't be a great loss. Try to tell as a few people as possible about your interests in numismatics and PMs, the majority of people do not need to know of what you have.
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 Posted 07/14/2012  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many many good posts here on this subject.

Bizy, sounds like you've got a very solid security plan for your stack. The SDB, the letters with instructions, a strategy of keeping things out of sight, and of course keeping everything need to know only. Well done.
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