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NCLT Coins Are Not Legal Tender, Including The $20 For $20

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 Posted 04/10/2015  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T1Steel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am in Alberta and I carry one of these coins in my pocket always. If I have time and am near a bank I will stop in and question them if they will take the coin. I have never been told no, with or with out account.
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 Posted 05/31/2015  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traviscoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While a bank will try to tell you they do not have to accept the coin. They actually by law have to accept that coin. if it were a bill note they can legally refuse to accept it if they want. But, under the currency Act they may not refuse..

(2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins:
(a) forty dollars if the denomination is two dollars or greater but does not exceed ten dollars;
(b) twenty-five dollars if the denomination is one dollar;
(c) ten dollars if the denomination is ten cents or greater but less than one dollar;
(d) five dollars if the denomination is five cents; and
(e) twenty-five cents if the denomination is one cent.


(2.1) In the case of coins of a denomination greater than ten dollars, a payment referred to in subsection (1) may consist of not more than one coin, and the payment is a legal tender for no more than the value of a single coin of that denomination.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/.../page-1.html

So if you are still reading at this point you may go to the bank and under that one transaction they can not refuse the deposit of 1 20$ coin 1 50$ coin And 1 100$ coin.

But, again they can still refuse and while they are breaking the law... the law actually has not legislation to punish them for the refusal of the acceptance of our currency.

So in conclusion, while it is against the law for them to refuse the 20 for 20 coin. There is no legal action that you can take against them as none as been put in place.... yet.

Maybe, if you incurred damages on the account of the fact they would not accept the legal tender, you may be able to sue for those damages that you incurred. But, just to warn you they have some pretty good lawyer on their side.
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 Posted 05/31/2015  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A deposit is not a payment.
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(2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins:


Bolding mine, where is a deposit a payment? No where I know of.
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 Posted 07/14/2015  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qinzhi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everybody,

I'm in Toronto. My wife went to RBC Bank in Toronto (Huron st. & spadina ave.) today and wanted to exchange the 2015 Bug's Bunny, face value $20 to $20. RBC Bank refused. The manager of that branch said "This is not currency."
Can anybody tell me which bank can exchange these coins for face value in Toronto?
Thank you.

Thank trout1105 for your help, otherwise my account may be closed.
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07/14/2015 7:57 pm
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 Posted 07/14/2015  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi ginzhi

To the forum

Please read the RULES (click the RULES tab at the top right hand of your screen)
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 Posted 07/14/2015  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Crikey , that was quick
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Thank trout1105 for your help, otherwise my account may be closed.


All Is good Mate,
Have you tried depositing these coins into you bank account ?
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 Posted 07/14/2015  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RBC or TD that you have account with + they aware about these coins.

Go to your branch, if they refuse, asked manager for the visit card. Take the email id of the manager, and call the RCM. Ask rep to send instructions to the managers mail.

This way deposited every XforX, except the $200 (still keeping).

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 Posted 07/15/2015  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinsplus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have deposited all the $20 for $20, $50 for $50, $100 for $100, and $200 for $200 into my RBC bank account in Vancouver without any issues.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Can anybody tell me which bank can exchange these coins for face value in Toronto?


I went to the TD on Bloor and Bathurst and I was able to get a 100 for 100 coin from the manager. Someone had brought it in, so I guess that one would take it in without giving you any issues.

But all banks should take it by law
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 Posted 07/15/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently the RCM has a better new direction for the banks to accept these NCLT coins, but as I said before if you deposit at your own home branch, surely they will not lose a good customer over a few hundred dollar deposit, but remember the banks don't make 2 billion every 90 days by being helpful to every walkin person.
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 Posted 07/15/2015  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But all banks should take it by law

Since when do banks abide by the law?

The banks don't make money with these, so naturally they will try everything to prevent these coins from being cashed.

I guess I can forget cashing my x-for-x coins on my next trip to Canada...
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NCLT is non circulating, but it is legal tender. The banks will get the money for any NCLT that is redeemed. And if they don't accept it, the RCM will make them aware of this.

I've had no problem redeeming x for x so far, after enjoying them for a bit
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 Posted 07/15/2015  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qinzhi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
[Have you tried depositing these coins into you bank account ?]
I tried to deposit one coin at my bank (actually it is a credit union -- Buduchnist credit union at Bathurst & Steels), the bank manager told me they don't accept this, because they are not a bank. He suggest me to go to CIBC Bank to try to deposit it, just cross the Bathurst Rd. He said the CIBC is selling those coins.
So I went to CIBC bank. I didn't see that they're selling those coins. I don't have an account in CIBC. I asked the casher if I can exchange these coins to cash. She doesn't know. I asked her to ask her manager. This way is learned from Silveroid. Thanks Silveroid. Later her manager came and told me that she had phoned their main office. She told me some of those coins they can accept, some they don't accept. She wants a list of coins what I have and I have to open an account in CIBC. I will send her the coin list tonight. This is a good thing, otherwise I would lose half value of my coins.
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