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Here's A Fun One: Which 1799 Dollar Is Real? :-)

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 Posted 07/11/2012  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If all 3 are counterfeit, I won't find the post amusing. In fact, I'd find it a bit of a disservice to the Community.

And regardless of how many are counterfeit, the answer would be all 3 are real (as in not imaginary), but that's not a choice either.
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 Posted 07/11/2012  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, the gig is up. I admit that it was a trick question.

Everyone who said "none of the above" is correct. All three are counterfeits.


If you're going to be a curmudgeon about it and not enjoy this post for what it is, allow me to give a bit of background as to why I decided to share them:

I tend to get a lot of donated counterfeits as well as obtain them from coin dealers and cash-for-gold establishments for The Black Cabinet.

Doing my "normal rounds," there has recently been a glut of dud 1796, 1797, and 1799 dollars (the latter having the most variety, as you can see). So be on the lookout and inform the more casual or newer members of our hobby.

That is all. :-)

EDIT: Just a quick "PS," it makes me feel rather wonderful that so many of you picked up on the fact that they were all bogus. All three of these coins pictured here passed as genuine before they came into my possession. Keep up the good work.
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07/11/2012 10:39 pm
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 Posted 07/11/2012  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since this has become an educational thread, how about posting
pics of the reverses of the coins. That should be interesting.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mackwork to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If a lot of us could tell they were all fake, who passed these as genuine - the sellers?
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 Posted 07/12/2012  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is nor surprising to me that the average Joe on the street would see any of these as real. To my surprise I found my own kids were never even taught who are on present day coins lets alone something from more than a century ago. Of course they recognize some of the people when they look at them, but if you asked them to make a list without seeing the coins/bills, they could not do it (that was awhile ago - now they can!).
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 Posted 07/12/2012  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SteveCaruso
Actually did a great job! we are all supposed to be noticing fine details
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I will say nothing at all to give away the answer. ;-)


notice the italicized. NOW that is cool!

The one on the left, nose bridge blends into the field. Poor strike although the other details are better!

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07/12/2012 12:51 pm
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 Posted 07/12/2012  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll post the reverses once I'm back in the office later today.

And tokenmast caught the giveaway. :-) Good job with the fine details!
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 Posted 07/12/2012  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What surprised me was how many people chose one as being genuine because that was the only choice in the pole. When your gut tells you something might not be right, stick to your guns and don't fall for it, walk away.
Steve I think this post was very valuable, thank for doing it.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, whoops, I voted the right one! I had in mind "which one is the fake one?".
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 Posted 07/12/2012  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I tend to get a lot of donated counterfeits as well as obtain them from coin dealers and cash-for-gold establishments for The Black Cabinet

Great post Steve! Might I ask what the Black Cabinet is?
Also, you mention lots of 1796, 1797, 1799 fakes - I have a raw 1798; are fakes rare for '98?
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 Posted 07/12/2012  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VGRX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are these fales silver?
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 Posted 07/12/2012  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I saw the pic, I was like all three are fake, no way one of those is real!
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 Posted 07/12/2012  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://fakes.numismetrica.com/ is The Black Cabinet, where SC resides (JK, he does an awesome job with it)
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