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blackjack Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 11/26/2012 2:05 pm Don't take a hit on this, andym. Report this Post to the Staff
andym Valued Member United States 51 Posts	Posted 11/27/2012 5:14 pm I'm trying not to blackjack. But the seller's recent defense response to ebay now is that I replaced his "good" coin with a counterfeit of my own. Here's a link to the sale... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Twenty...320999678344 and to the seller... http://myworld.ebay.com/burgio_liquidations Report this Post to the Staff
basebal21 Bedrock of the Community 13014 Posts	Posted 11/27/2012 5:23 pm Quote: Do you think that since this is US counterfeit currency, that I could call the county sheriff on the seller? Local law enforcement wont do a thing especially since the seller isn't in their jurisdiction I'm assuming. If you really wanted to the Secret Service is who deals with fake money though they may not bother for a single coin you could always inquire and see what your options are. As far as the seller claiming you switched the coin explain how you took the time to confirm it was fake before and take pictures showing its the same coin. You can also get notorized statements from the dealers you took it too if theyre willing but more than likely ebay will side with you if their past history is any indication Report this Post to the Staff
andym Valued Member United States 51 Posts	Posted 11/27/2012 5:37 pm Quote: Local law enforcement wont do a thing especially since the seller isn't in their jurisdiction I'm assuming. I meant to call HIS local sheriff and police. I know the sheriff swore an oath to defend the US Constitution, federal law, on counterfeit currency. Report this Post to the Staff
basebal21 Bedrock of the Community 13014 Posts	Posted 11/27/2012 5:44 pm I doubt it, theyd more than likely let the Secret Service there since theyre the experts on counterfits. Especially since its an old coin the sheriff wont be able to say if its real or not and frankly just might not care. Report this Post to the Staff
johnny54321 Rest in Peace United States 4849 Posts	Posted 11/27/2012 6:57 pm Quote: I'm trying not to blackjack. But the seller's recent defense response to ebay now is that I replaced his "good" coin with a counterfeit of my own. Interestingly enough, I had the exact same problem in an ebay purchase I made 4 years ago when I was still relatively new to numismatics. It was also an expensive purchase, 1855 $3 gold coin at $600+. I posted about it on CCF like you, here in the archives: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=27428 Seller said the same thing yours did, even though I never returned the coin, he claimed on my feedback that I tried to "switch" coins. I fought it through ebay, and was out of luck....but this was ONLY because the coin I purchased was originally inside a pendant. I had removed the soldered pendent, so therefore changed the configuration of the coin. Your situation is different if you did not alter the coin once received, so my bet is that you will win and get your money back fighting it through ebay. Good luck!! I completely understand your frustration. Report this Post to the Staff
hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 11/29/2012 4:14 pm Don't worry, you should win this case. Make sure you keep the seller's pictures and your pictures. My only concern would be that the seller claims you "sent him back a different coin" after ebay asks you to give him tracking info for the return after they rule in your favor. I've never had that happen as a buyer or seller so I don't know how that would work itself out. You probably should not have left the harsh negative feedback comment before the case was resolved as it probably made the seller very angry and more likely to try and stonewall you. Don't bother with calling any authorities. It would just be a hassle and nothing would come of it. From their viewpoint, there is a difference between counterfeit and fake. The feds DO care about counterfeit currency being passed, but nobody in their ranks cares about one fake coin created as a numismatic fraud. Report this Post to the Staff
andym Valued Member United States 51 Posts	Posted 11/29/2012 10:00 pm I'd think that if there's fraud or if it's a fake, all bets would be off the table. If it was in a pendant and you took it out, it would just be a fake coin out of a pendant. What you received was a fake coin in a pendant. It's a fake coin either way. Report this Post to the Staff
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