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 Posted 10/19/2012  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaikno66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes it has reeded edges
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 Posted 10/19/2012  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaikno66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good news it didn't stick to the magnet
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 Posted 10/19/2012  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slowaltima to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rims on the reverse look completely wrong to me, hence why I would lean towards fake. I don't see anything that stands out based on the images provided. Can you do some up close pictures? May show casting marks if there are any.
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 Posted 10/19/2012  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the quality of the images I cannot be definitive, but that rim on the reverse is unnatural and a strong indication of a fake.

Do the reeds overlap at any point? And what do the reeds look like? Are they "toothy" like a cogwheel? Or are they a bit broader between grooves?
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 Posted 10/19/2012  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In addition to the rims, the date looks "off". Can you get a close up pic of the date to compare with this? The base of the 5 on yours seems higher than the 1, 8 and 9.

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 Posted 10/19/2012  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SJUHawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/19/2012  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the date looks like it is off to me from your photos, can you snap a picture of the Obverse and Reverse looking straight down on the coin instead of at a angle like these photos are? I want to add just because it doesn't stick to a magnet that doesn't mean its real, there are allot of base metals that they use to make counterfeit coins that do not stick to a magnet especially since everyone always says "see if it sticks to a magnet" to check authenticity, they got wise to that a long time ago and started using metals that are not magnetic. There may be a chance that it is made of coin silver but I really doubt it because it just looks like a modern struck counterfeit to me from the pictures provided and they usually have no silver in them at all
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 Posted 10/19/2012  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As just requested, need photos shot from straight on.

Of interest, as I mentioned previously....those RIMS have me intrigued. What if this is a proof?
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 Posted 10/19/2012  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not even Proofs have that sharp a difference between rim and denticle.

The law of averages says this one's almost certainly a counterfeit. I'm not saying definitively it is, but we see far more fakes than real Seated dollars here posted raw.
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 Posted 10/19/2012  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Come on Soooop.....let us dream! :)

Believe you are correct though.
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 Posted 10/19/2012  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with jeffrose. Here's the date off a genuine, mint state, 1859 SLD. The OP's coin is likely counterfeit.

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 Posted 10/19/2012  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaikno66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have been trying to get pics up but can't get any good ones any tips
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 Posted 10/19/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I own a Chinese fake Seated Liberty dollar (sorry - don't remember the date off the top of my head) and it is not magnetic. How do I know its fake? I bought it from the guy in CHina who used to make them.

Also check out this pic as my Chinese fakes are a bit thicker than a real coin and also their reeding is more crisp than on a real coin:


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BTW - this pic originally was from when I posted a fake 1879 dollar and a legi one to compare the two.
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 Posted 10/19/2012  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jwguts to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right... proper weight, non-magnetic, proper thickness and diameter, proper appearance. I like a "sound test" too, as silver coins have a different sound when dropping them on a table. Those are the normal ways to check a coin. There's also a chemical which can prove whether the coin is silver. Of course, it ruins any numismatic value when it burns the coin.
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 Posted 10/22/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windycity to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better pictures are needed.
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