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Does anyone have an opinion on the silver proof National Park sets that are rated PR70? They are obviously beautiful coins but with me being fairly new, I am not sure how much better (and valuable) they are as compared to just picking up some BU coins.
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Dave
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Question for DNA - Where do you mint the sales numbers for the 2012-S ATB Quarters? I have looked everywhere on the US Mint website and can not find sales figures for any of their products. Thanks! |
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Mint Stats - 31 Dec. 2012From Numismatic News - Mint Stats. Quote:
Does anyone have an opinion on the silver proof National Park sets that are rated PR70? Not worth the extra money for the average collector. Basically no difference to the naked eye between a 69 coin and a 70.
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01/05/2013 09:22 am
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Thank you, DNA. I have bookmarked these links-very helpful. I'll be going to them often.
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looks like Denali has the lowest numbers at 1.01M
and El Yunque has a total at 1.67 M
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looks like Denali has the lowest numbers at 1.01M
and El Yunque has a total at 1.67 M Wouldn't that make them the rarest non-proof 2012 coins? Edited by matchbox
01/05/2013 2:38 pm
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stll higher than a 16D Merc
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Via Matchbox's post on quarters available I was unaware that they were available in silver BU, I thought they were only available as silver proof.
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looks like Denali has the lowest numbers at 1.01M
and El Yunque has a total at 1.67 M El Yunque-S is the only variety so far that's completely sold out (bags and rolls), so that total is probably final. Probably safe to assume the other four varieties have the same mintage, which would mean the Hawaii and Chaco rolls should be almost sold out. muddler, the 2012-S circulation-finish Quarters are clad, I wish they were silver! Too bad they didn't think of Silver S-Mint circulation-finish Quarter Sets beginning in 2010 (which would have made more sense than the 5-oz. hockey pucks, strictly speaking...)  Edited by DNA
01/05/2013 6:37 pm
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I am not sure how much better (and valuable) they are as compared to just picking up some BU coins. You likely wont see much of a difference with the naked eye. How valuable they are will depend on how popular the series gets and how many of them make the grade for the 70s. The only thing that can really be said for sure is that with the modern series like this the only coins that really have premiums or a chance to go up in value are the 70s. If you like them get them, most can be had for under 45 dollars right now. They may take off they may not, they likely wont get much cheaper than they currently are though |
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@Kurrykid: When you are referring to PR70 coins. There are things that you need to consider: Are they graded by PCGS, NGC or ANACS, ICG or some other company. PCGS & NGC have larger market share, more people seek/buy, cost more, hold better value over the long run. ANACS & ICG are ok (some experienced collectors suggest only to buy PCGS & NGC graded coins when it come to modern coins). The chances of fake slabs are low for modern coins but you should still be aware.
I also agree w/ basebal21.
@muddler: I believed he mean Proof S Silver, not business strike S silver. May be since there's only one silver coin for the design/date/mint, he didn't spell out the proof part?
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I believed he mean Proof S Silver, not business strike S silver. May be since there's only one silver coin for the design/date/mint, he didn't spell out the proof part? Yes, I meant the S Proof silver, but now I have to ask.... are there S mint Proof silvers and S mint BU silvers available? If so, does anyone make a distinction between the two..... consider them 2 different types of the coin? |
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ALL proof versions of the circulating coins, whether they be clad or silver, are S mint. Up until this year, circulating type strikes were only at P&D and only clad (these statements apply from 72 on). Mint sets, which are struck differently than business strike coins, are also only P&D. So last year (2012), because of the 75th anniversary of the new San Fran mint building, they decided to do the ATB Quarters in business strike at San Fran. There has not been a business strike quarter from San Fran since 1955 I believe. So these coins are being sought after by a lot of collectors. Though some people are a bit upset with the mint for not doing this from the beginning of the series in 2010. You know who you are.  NONE of the business strike coins are silver, regardless of mint. Last time there was a "business strike" silver coin was the bicentennial 40% silver set. And some would argue those do not count as business strike. If you go with that, then the last would be the 69 Kennedy half. The 70 was also 40%, but only appeared in the D half of the mint set, so really isn't a "business strike". One further note. The S business ATBs are only being made for collectors. They are not intended for circulation (NIFC) coins. So should you run across one in circulation, a collector set it free or some idiot who got into dads collection for their drug/alcohol/cigarette money. And as far as PF/MS 70 vs 69. Unless you are obsessed with having "perfect coins", then you will not be able to tell the difference between the two in most cases. Generally its going to be some minor strike error that is easily missed. So go with 69 IMO. The money differenc is huge, the quality difference is not. Edited by smokeriderdon
01/07/2013 4:48 pm
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As of this morning Chaco and Volcanoes S-rolls are sold out. Acadia shouldn't be that far behind to a sellout. While these quarters are certainly higher in mintage than a 1916-D Merc., its like comparing apples to oranges. These are destined to be the keys to standard clad Washington NON-PROOF set. You have to go back to 1937 in the silver Washington set to get a comparable mintage figure, and that coin, the 1937-S is one expensive puppy in MS. So socking away a few Mint rolls is a no brainer, since they are of such low mintage and only 2x's face from the Mint. 1.4 to 1.6 million is not enough to go around for all the Washington/ATB collectors out there, IMO.
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01/09/2013 12:52 pm
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I actually found 2 S mint quarters from a coffee vending machine a few weeks ago, made me think what journey did these go on to get into circulation in the first place and how did they end up in a vending machine
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