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Valued Member
 United States
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I have a feeling this is going to be war. But they will get sick of me long before I get sick of them.
@ Bobby, I thought the same thing, but when I told the worker that I wanted registered and insured, they told me that I couldn't have it both ways.
@joking, Thanks for the heads up, I'm sure I will be needing that for my fight.But about insuring currency, if there are stipulations and specific rules regarding insurance, shouldn't the sender be informed of that prior to purchasing the insurance? It sounds like the typical bait and switch. If I were to sell insurance, then come out with stipulations to block payment on claims, I would be in prison in no time. But its cool if the government does it?!?
And if someone could please inform me how to quote a posting so I don't have to keep saying @ so and so it would be greatly appreciated : )
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Valued Member
United States
161 Posts |
@ Nathan, I live in center Mass so I know where you are coming from. Let me know when you want to get coins graded and we can carpool to Florida!
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Forum Dad
 United States
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but when I told the worker that I wanted registered and insured, they told me that I couldn't have it both ways. The person that told you that would be the first person I would scream at. Registered mail can be insured up to 25K. |
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Valued Member
United States
161 Posts |
He was the first person I went to. I got the call at work around lunchtime, I left and went straight to him. I live in a small town so he is the only one that works there besides the postmaster. Even though he told me that I didn't need to send it registered, it would still fall on me in the eyes of the post office. The postmaster heard me telling him my story and she came out of her office to assist me as soon as she heard me say "rare coins". She gave me her email and a form to fill out and told me to send her photos of the missing items so she could send it to the recovery office in the case that it turns up. If she calls me and tells me that she has my coins, presents and gift cards will rain down on her like a monsoon. The guy that told me I couldn't send it both ways is the same guy that told me I need proof of purchase and proof of value. At that point I was ready to jump over the counter, but I know he is just doing his job.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
There was one thought I neglected to include in my initial post...
When you're ragging on the USPO slugs, be aware that one in-person visit from an irate "customer" (ha,ha) is worth two dozen phone calls or ten dozen
faxes, twenty dozen letters or a hundred dozen emails. Snivel servants LOVE to hide behind their phones and computers and they absolutely DREAD
having to endure direct exposure to the in-person fury of an enraged customer.
If you push them hard enough and long enough, there's a good chance they'll find a way around all their nasty regs so they can appropriately compensate
you just to get you to go away. Getting to that point however requires extensive and lengthy effort. You'll need to make death seem like a desirable
alternative when compared to a life of continuing to deal with you.
Best of luck with your efforts.
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Valued Member
United States
416 Posts |
registered mail is the ONLY secure way to mail anything period...as stated above it can be insured..it sounds like the postmaster is willing to work with you to hopefully recover your property...if it makes you feel better go ahead and yell but it will not get anybody in the postal service on your side..hope it works out
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There IS a way for you to file a claim on this. Do you have ANY pictures at all? There are numerous ways to price these coins online.
When they turn you down the first time, there is a couple higher authorities within the USPS.
Also, there is another numistist that had the same problem. He posted on the major grading service who he appealed to. Search for USPS or Postal on that site....believe your answer is there.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You confused the poor postal worker when you asked for registered AND insured, because he is right you can't send it both ways. HOWEVER a package sent Registered for a declared value, with the appropriate fee paid IS insured for that declared value. If your LCS remembers the 1889-CC, ae probably will if he actually spent a lot of time looking for it, should be able to provide you with an invoice for it and that should cover the proof of value requirement for it. Make sure in your claims that you refer to the missing items as coins with numismatic value and be ready to quote their own regulations as to the fact that they DO pay the PMV for such lost coins. (The Pub 122 listed above is good, the actual section from the Domestic Mailing Manual DMM is DMM 609 4.1 g g Fair market value of stamps and coins of philatelic or numismatic value, as determined by a recognized stamp or coin dealer or current coin and stamp collectors newsletters and trade papers Link to the whole DDM 609 dealing with claims http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/609.htm |
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Valued Member
United States
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I just finished filing the claim online. It took me the better half of the night (not that I was able to get much sleep anyhow) but I was able to track down all of my proof of purchases. My LCS owner did right me up a receipt for the 89-CC after I explained to him what had happened. I also included pictures of the coins I pulled offline that best represented the grades of my coins. Now comes the waiting game.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Although I feel like this is entirely the fault of the USPS I cringed when I saw the word "envelope". IMO the only coins that should be mailed in an envelope are ones with a low enough value that it won't hurt if they disappear. If I'm shipping valuable coins they go into a ziplock with my name/address, & the ziplock is securely taped to the inside of the box.
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Pillar of the Community
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This incident would be my worst nightmare! I will watch this thread hoping to read good news in the near future.
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Rest in Peace
United States
4078 Posts |
MrMorgan.  with the above. This is terrible. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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New Member
Portugal
8 Posts |
Sad story.
Registered mail is definitely the way to go when shipping valuable stuff. Double-bag your shipment: use an inner box or envelope cocooned in filament (strapping) tape or a Tyvek envelope. The inner box or envelope should be labeled with the shipping address and your return address, too.
Here's one the Postal Service won't tell you: When you use Registered Mail to ship something overseas, you have pretty much NO INSURANCE regardless of the declared value. Still a good way to go, but don't count on that $25,000 coverage for foreign packages. Also, be sure to check on the country-specific value limits for Registered mail.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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KenM is right about that. Once it leave US territory the coverage for Registered mail drops to a maximum of $49. That is because once it leaves USPS hands that can't guarantee how it will be handled and what if any security the package will have.
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