Modern Proof Maria Theresa Thaler?

Very true. But The designation H62 does seem to make since given the fact that Hafner's book was published in 1984, and H62 functions as a catch-all for post-1986 strikes.

What kind of designation would you give for post-1986 strikes?

IMHO, it is more likely to be a H49 specimen. It is the first modern Vienna MTT restrike. Hafner suggested there were many varieties of this type. One of the notable feature is that two dots on the central Austrian sheild. Henry

A short reply to Sunny. The time fame of H49 was 1853-1890/1900, this is the information from Hafner's lexikon. Henry

I remember there is no Rome strike (H71)shown in this lengthy thread till now. Though the reference price of a Rome MTT strike is not high in Hafner's book, an average MTT collector will find it difficult to hunt a Rome strike. According to the paper "The Twentieth Century Minting of the 1780 Maria Theresa Thaler" by Ian Fenn (austrokiwi), it was said the Vienna type and Rome type were struke by same die. Before WWII 1935, Italian government obtained the minting rights from Austria through some sort of political means. I find Rome strike (H71) is very similar to H54, H57 and even H49. I buy this MTT which is believed to be a real Rome stike for there is a prominent continuous circumferential die crack on the reverse side (may also be found on the observe side). This finding complies with what the paper said, ..."the Italian insistence of continuing with the genuine die".., that means the Italian government preferred to produce the genuine original Vienna type for the Ethiopian expedition.

My coin is 27.94 grams, 40.3-40.4 mm. Tell me if you don't think it is a Rome strike (H71) after seeing the pictures.

Ian, I don't think it is easy to determine a modern MTT from Vienna type to Rome type for the very small difference in %Ag contents used - 83.3% versus 83.5%. The error incurred by different degree of wearing between coins and also the instrumental error in measurement make the distinguish even harder though Rome restrike is theretically heavier than Vianna type. To me, I do appreciated the unique die crack as the sign of Rome restike.

There is another Rome restrike for you to see. Besides there is a circumferentail die crack on the reverse side, a discontinued die crack is also found on the observe side.

The coin is 27.76 grams and 40.1-40.3mm.

Good note to help to find another Rome MTT. Thank you Ian for sharing your knowledge.

I don't believe the information provided: Edge: Length of JUSTITIA 14mm,

It looks like a Paris restrike, type 1 as type 2 is a proof. This one not looks like a proof. So I guess it is a H69 specimen.

H50 is much rarer. I would buy it if it is a H50.

Henry

Oh yes, I miss the Hungarian cross. It should be H68 Brussel restrike.

The saltires between Paris and Brussel are somewhat similar, I made the mistake.

Thanks Ian.