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I'm glad that this conversation has taken place since it touches on something that has been bothering me lately as I have been posting more. As relatively inexperienced numismatist I'm hesitant to participate fully here since I don't want to give poor advice that could hurt some of my fellow novices here. I hope that nobody takes my advice blindly since I'm far from an expert in any category and that if I'm wrong on something that hopefully someone corrects me. I really like this forum because I feel comfortable participating here and I have learned a great deal in the ten months that I have been here. I can speculate on grades in the grading sections and have surprisingly came close to the TPG's grade far more often than I would have thought possible. Edited by Joe2007
01/23/2013 6:34 pm
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"The key to successful data mining on the Internet - here at CCF as well as anywhere else - is developing the ability to separate the wheat from the chaff." Isn't that "The Wheat from the Memorial?"  Bettaguy2, Sometimes the most interesting topics take a member's question and run with it in different directions, leading to a most very interesting discussion. I posted a question about a bronze coin and received an education in Verdicare. Have I tried to use it yet? No. Result? Do not know, nor do I care. BUT! I have the education I received filed away for future reference. The crux of this topic reveals itself to me in the Subject Line: Disregarding advice and opinions here. Advice is sought, whereas opinions are offered without asking. Advice, good advice, costs money. Opinions are free. There is a subtle difference. BUT! When a member asks, "What should I do ...?" I reply, "You COULD do ..." That is the extent of what I can reasonably offer. So, while reviewing the topics in this group consider all of the "advice" given so far, with the added "opinion" that it is sometimes less important WHAT was offered and more important HOW it was offered: a two-word reply or two, well constructed and thoughtful paragraphs? |
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Some advice that I disregard: when someone posts that a coin isn't 'special' enough to keep.
Here's what happened (and still happens):
Somebody posted a picture of a coin that for some reason has piqued their curiosity of the poster.
Somebody else replies that the coin is not all that interesting and should be returned to circulation. The doubling is really MD; the MAD is common; or counter-stamps are not collectible. Whatever.
I will always keep whatever I fancy. I will encourage others to do the same because we are not all in this to make a profit.
On the other hand, advice I regularly follow: BUY THE COIN NOT THE HOLDER.
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Somebody posted a picture of a coin that for some reason has piqued their curiosity of the poster.
Somebody else replies that the coin is not all that interesting and should be returned to circulation. The doubling is really MD; the MAD is common; or counter-stamps are not collectible. Whatever. Im guilty of giving that advice from time to time but only when someone asks about the value. I think theres a difference between saying that they might as well spend it in terms of value and someone saying oh you shouldnt collect those. At the end of the day people should keep what they like regardless of premiums |
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great thread!
As far as coins go, grading and makes and series... Ima also new here so if I post a question that opens itself to opinions, I appreciate them and even if I disagree, I still appreciate someone taking the time to state their opinion.
I think if you take everyone's opinion with a grain of salt, even if you don't agree with them or are on the other side of it, it gives you something to chew on.
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Well, here we are. Into the third page of responses. Yet the original poster's questions have been skirted, nonetheless resulting in a most interesting thread. Original questions were: Quote:
My question is this. Have you ever disregarded advice and opinions here? With good or poor results? What was the subject? I did not answer these directly, because I was afraid it may just cause a lot of dialogue that would end up nowhere, but I believe that Bettaguy2 deserves an answer. Quote:
Have you ever disregarded advice and opinions here? Yes. Quote:
What was the subject? Coin cleaning. Quote:
With good or poor results? Ah! Now that depends on how you look at it! You could say that the results were poor in that the coin assumed a lighter shade than what would be expected for its age and wear. Therefore having lost virtuosity. You could say that the coin looks better because the crud is gone. I would say that it would not have been the right thing to do if I ever intended to sell the coin. But this fragment of my collection is much prettier to look at, now. And in a few more years, I imagine that the brown color will return.  |
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It's not just the forum, it's the internet in general. A good part of stuff on the web is plain wrong.
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the original poster's questions have been skirted, nonetheless resulting in a most interesting thread. I had to actually think about this for a while. My questions are limited to "What do you think of this?" and "How did I do?". I am usually too busy reading and researching this and other forums (or "sharing my opinions" here) to ask these questions. Most decisions requiring a course of action may be shaped by my research but I honestly cannot remember asking "Should I buy / sell / clean / keep / this?". Since none of my questions have requested advice on future actions, I feel I can honestly say that I have never disregarded the advice solicited here  (opinions now, that is a different story  ) |
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While not everyone here has actually asked the question, I'll bet most everyone here has formed opinions or made a plan based on advise they have read here. Mostly about long term value of coins they have or want to buy. I have done both. I have a limited budget and have not bought coins that people here have opined will have no long term value. And I have bought coins that I just like despite the fact that other members have said were long term busts.( 2012 Special Edition Silver Proof Set? ) My kids will be the benefactors of any decisions I make now anyway, I'll be long gone. I have 180 posts, but have been collecting on and off for over forty years. I am sure there are some very chatty people here that have over a thousand posts who are relatively new to the hobby. Point being, like Kelly said, read,take everything as an opinion, form a consensus, then own it. If you want expert advise you can count on, go to Ask.com or yahoo answers.  Edited by denco7
01/24/2013 11:12 am
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I will always keep whatever I fancy. I will encourage others to do the same because we are not all in this to make a profit.  |
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here are a couple folks who believe they are never wrong and therefore are labeled as the god's gift to knowledge and power. My philosophy is that everybody is continuously learning, regardless of your knowledge level. Taking advice and critiquing with a grain of salt will only make you a better numismatist. You mean there is a possibility that I make mistakes? Or that I sometimes could be wrong? Impossible. Maybe.  Yes, as to the original question. I usually have to try something myself if even slightly suspecious of what has been said. So much on the internet is not only wrong, but at times dangerous. I feel it is always better to be safe than sorry. Quote:
A few years and posts ago I inquired about the use of acetone to clean ( now I konw I meant to say conserve ) coins. I was warned to be careful with the stuff. I think just carl warned of possibly burning my house down, lol. My typical warnings about the usage of stuff. Sort of the typical problem with some advice. So many times something is SORT of explained, that the little details get lost or left out. I always try to warn people about all those little details. One more reason I try to do things myself, if possible. Edited by just carl
01/24/2013 11:27 am
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Even an expert can be wrong.
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Not sure who's the rude poster you're referring too. That's what the moderators are there for. And you can report any post that you feel is crossing the line. Unless you're referring to me, I have only seen one attack on a poster and I was the one attacked. It was removed within a couple of minutes. No, I'm not referring to you. I didn't want to name names because I don't want to break any rules. These people don't really show themselves anymore, but they do pop up. |
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I will always keep whatever I fancy. I will encourage others to do the same because we are not all in this to make a profit.
 with Jbuck implicitly It's not about the money or future values of coins, Its all about collecting what you want and enjoying your finds/puchases and adding them to your collection. Let me take a wild guess here, I recon 99% of us have no idea of how to make a quid out of this hobby and simply don't give a "Rats" anyway, as long as we get the coins we want/need ALL IS GOOD |
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