Is My Math Wrong Or Is This Buyer Unable To Count?

This forum encourages the public identification of problematic buyers. G048406, you are quite permitted to release the name of this one. But that is your decision.

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I agree that people all over the U.S. need to wake up and take a proactive interest in personal responsibility. To many people coins are simply a diversion, or an investment. If it is for an investment they should definitely know as much as possible before buying. People don't do what they should much of the time. I think this is why so many auctions sell for so high is because of the uninformed getting into an excited bidding frenzy. Let them keep bidding, I say.

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I don't think anybody ever tried to make the point that the buyer was right. They clearly were not.

It very likely could be a case of buyer's remorse. The seller has a return policy, but the buyer may be trying to lie just to get out of paying the high return shipping, which would have to include signature confirmation and insurance and such. I've seen it before, but never on a slabbed coin and not usually on one that was appropriately bought. Usually, the situations involve a coin that is over-payed for and upon receipt magically incurs some phantom damage.

As it seems the buyer is simply lying, I suppose the issue of an uneducated buyer buying such a coin is a moot point here. I still think it entirely possible in the general sense. The unfortunate reason of many people just being stupid or careless. I also still think it reasonable that one could be building a type set including such a coin and not know much about it. Slabs have been wrong, but only extremely rarely.

The point I was trying to make about the seller explaining to the buyer where the stars are seems to have been misunderstood. The coin was described completely correct in the listing and the seller has no duty to explain a slabbed coin's details after the fact. I was just saying that the seller should have made every effort to do so to avoid the problems that are now present.

ebay, unfortunately, is not a normal fair marketplace. If I go to Macys at the mall to return a shirt, I will be subject to whatever return policy I agreed to when I bought it. On ebay, buyers can do whatever they want. Some do. Lying and cheating usually goes with impunity. In fact, if this coin wasn't slabbed, I bet ebay would rule in the buyer's favor and the seller would be punished and lose money. By the way, ebay will not ask a NGC employee about this, that is a lie. If a seller wants to keep perfect feedback and rating on that site, they have to be over-accommodating.

I don't know if Macy's shoppers know their policy and people do try and get over on them. I was in Macy's and a woman was trying to exchange a shirt but wanted the equivalent of the regular price in exchange rather than the sale price she paid. People often wear clothes than return them. I don't know why they filed a claim when they want to return it unless Paypal is giving them a credit for the shipping costs. I bought some Indian Heads on Webstore that had a dark picture. They turned out to look like they had been scrubbed with a brillo pad. The seller started giving me an issue about returning and filed a claim with Paypal, they refunded my full payment amount and credited half of my shipping costs.

g048406- IMO this is more a case of buyer's remorse. It seems to me that after you enlightened the buyer on how to identify a 15 star reverse, a person of reasonable intellect could/should have verified via an internet search. A quick Google search "1799/8 15 star reverse" notes the top three responses outline how to identify one. EARLYDOLLAR.ORG is usually one of the top choices. However, you can never rule out lack of knowledge in general let alone with this series. Looks like he should be paying you $1624 for his tuition lesson!? Good luck!