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What Happens To Gold And Silver Next? Look Out Below?

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 Posted 05/05/2016  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think pretty much everybody who posts here agrees with everything you said.

My comment on a downtrend is based on a future date when you let us know the ride is over.


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 Posted 05/05/2016  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@montanaCMR

well, its important to always look for 52 highs, and its also important that while u do that, determine when this move start, as you want to get in as it starts, get in early. Remember, we want to buy assets that are in uptrends/yearly highs and get rid off or sell short assets at yearly lows.

But BETTER than assets hitting yearly highs or 52 highs as we also call them, you should take notice and be eager to get into assets at yearly highs and that at the same time are making ALL TIME HIGHS. Never ignore assets that doing this price action at the same time.

As an example, with gold, when it broke the 800s, that was getting over its yearly highs and all time highs and we see how far gold went. So do not ignore assets at all time highs.

IF you feel better selling some on the way, do so, tho thats not really how its done for the most part. But if its working for you, and helping you with whatever emotional/psychological barrier you might have with just holding the entire position, then listen to your senses... and yes keep entering, so long as its in an uptrend.

I know some assets, when I trade them, once I identify a pattern, I prefer say doing several thousand shares on a 52 high b/o and then letting it run for a day or two and closing it out. Then on the other side of the trade I might be legging into it at the same time. This way I am extracting as much out of the market as I can.

For your point 4, again, just dont worry about that for now. Your job is again, to hold on, ride the trend.

Trends do not disappear in a few months, weeks, days. When assets start to hit yearly highs or lows, it can go on for a while, often longer than we can expect. Within the trend there might be occasional changes in patterns of behavior but none that affect the overall trend.

Trends last. Didnt we watch silver and gold go down for a period of about 4 years? How long were silver and gold going higher before the downtrend started? IT was in a multi-year trend. Therefore, allow the trend to run its course.

A trend takes times to change but right, we still are at the start. So you need to concentrate on sitting tight, sitting on your hands and do not worry about when the change trends. One day this up trend will cease. But that is not our job right now to look for. If you keep worrying about when the trend ends then you will end wanting to bolt sooner, leaving money on the table.

when I get some time I'll offer some clues, as expressed to us by price when its time to jump off. but for now hang in there, be patient. Trends follow the path of least resistance and that right now is up.

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05/05/2016 9:24 pm
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 Posted 05/05/2016  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And another thing, your email is still locked.

Also, the way you write, it makes me want to double and triple down, and then just wait.
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 Posted 05/05/2016  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@yup

So one last question, most of my retirement is in regular stock mutual funds and have done fine over the years. I think of this as my one long ball attempt. What is the most, as a percentage, you would risk on this uptrend in miner mutual funds? For me, 5% wouldn't make a life change as it could double and no big deal. Would 40% be crazy? 50% insane?

I don't mind risking some loss as I enjoy my job and hope to never retire if I can get healthy.

Please know I recognize nobody really knows where the market is going and all investing can be risky.

Finally, it seems following PM has more meaning to you than other investments because you like to collect as a hobby as well.
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 Posted 05/05/2016  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycoguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"We've only just begun...." The Carpenters 1972-ish.
Thanks Mr. YUP...
Found this article wanted to share...author seems pretty well respected and in the metals arena for a long time:
http://tsi-blog.com/2016/05/a-criti...re-for-gold/
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BTW, I've almost stopped buying physical gold & silver, but couldn't resist low ebay prices on NGC & PCGS Platinum eagles and a slew of Palladium Russia coins and a 2004 China Palladium Panda PCGS...not much talk about Plat & Pall...they are quietly riding the entire commodities surge, and, like all my stacks, hoping for a sweet profit down the line. I like to buy contrarian...Palladium looks "bad" from what one reads here and there, but, like all rare metals, will have its ups and downs...seems like a "forgotten" issue, and, I always scour for deals. NO raw...of pretty much anything but silver...too many fakes. And, I would NEVER buy Chinese pandas unless from a large supplier(I grabbed 45, 2016 30 gram pandas in 15-coin holders recently from MCM to eventually be graded.) Don't know if you guys know, but, a recent purchase from Poland produced a KILO "silver" Panda that turned out to be lead filled silver plated fake. Took 3 weeks, but, I got my funds back...let's be careful out there!
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 Posted 05/06/2016  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycoguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great day going on..looks like the USA economy is really at a tipping point, leaning to a mild recession soon..
Here's a great article for those into the gold and silver coin situation, with a well-written take by a long time coin shop dealer:
http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...medium=email
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 Posted 05/06/2016  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ShinyRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm really enjoying this thread and I'm learning a lot. My stock purchases are pretty tiny compared to some of you guys but I have fun playing around with it. Keep the advice coming!
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Hey Shiny..big or small, it's the chance of a lifetime, really...in just 72 hours, off just a $1350 investment in Amarillo Gold mining co, profit over $885..........OTC Ticker AGCBF...grab it while still dirt cheap!
http://www.amarillogold.com/
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@Mycoguy, Thanks for posting the article.

It's funny reading this thread and some of the penny stocks mentioned. My friends consider an investment in a PM mutual fund risky and crazy. Compared to some penny stocks, it feels like investing in a CD.
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Most my best profits are in the "Penny Stocks"..Silver more than gold. It takes time to sort through all the freakin emails on bullion, interviews, opinions, etc...what has helped me are the interviews by some site with a CEO or such, and, their top picks, and why. That's how I found out about Amarillo, and Brazil Resources, Silvercorp, Integra Gold, Kootenay Silver and Silverbull. Silvercrest leads the pack, they were bought out by First Magestic late last year, and, in the conversion, got AG stock, and, the new OTC Silvercrest, which is technically labeled an explorer. At 0.11/share, I didn't give it a thought last year...the rest is history.
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 Posted 05/06/2016  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Penny stocks are a scam and for the most part are scams and a great way to lose your money. The ones that really make money on a penny stock are those who pump them constantly.

There is a good reason those companies are priced in pennies, dimes, etc: they are near or at bankruptcy. Commonly penny stocks thrive on unrelenting pumping and thats it. They have nothing in assets, zero chance of becoming a real company and just are attracting unsuspecting souls.

With so many legitimate companies listed on stock exchanges, do not put your money into penny stocks unless you want to lose your money in an instant.



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 Posted 05/06/2016  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So how good does the uptrend look? I'm trying to figure out a percentage compared to stock. Right now, I'm 80% stock, 20% pm fund. I want guts to up this to 30 or 40 given I'm not that confident in stocks anyways.
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Hey yup, do any of these numbers have meaning to you?

25
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@MontanaCMR

nope, not at all, except that they are numbers lol

and as far as your question from last night, it all depends.

To keep it simple tho, once I find some trends I like and they work, out of a 100% cash, I'll do between 60-80 % of two strong sectors or trends that are working. Then I will carry about 20-40 % in cash.

I like to do concentrated positions, easier to manage and keep under control with size.


As far as PMs having any strong meaning for affinity, not really. If we were discussing another trending sector, say it was the Japanese Yen which is in an up trend, I would be pointing out the same thing.

All assets are the same to me. Sugar, the dollar, stock, german bunds, its all the same to me. If I can sell it short or buy it and its in a trend, I am interested. If it has no trend and not at yearly highs or yearly lows I pass.

Before this market became stagnant and trend less, one big area I was trading with concentrated positions was all the IPO biotech stocks that were making yearly highs. Everything we discuss here about price action was exactly the same in the bios, which are now pretty much a dead and dying sector of the market.

So I really see no difference in gold versus say another sector that is trending. Same rules in price action, patterns etc repeat.
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