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Valued Member
Spain
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I cannot identify this coin....help please!!   |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Ive drawn a blank...found no match for the legend or the reverse on a coin of an empress.
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Moderator
 United States
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I can't make out enough of the legend to even take a guess.
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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Looks like ANNIA FAVSTINA the third wife of Elagabalus  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Theres no matching reverse for Annia Faustina. This appears to say PAX AVG. The obverse inscription is also off.
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Valued Member
 Spain
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Do you seem can be a fake?
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Moderator
United States
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Can you make out any of the obverse legend?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This coin is heavily tooled. It is hard to say what it once was. No empress has those chain-like links in her hair. The legend is recut. One warning sign is the surface. Cuts, scrapes, and pits can be filled in with gunk, sometimes even shoe polish, and the coin ends up looking like that. It is a way to conceal the freshness of recent recarving. This piece shows recent outlining and recutting in many places. When you see a coin with a surface like this one, worry that significant parts of the coin have been redone and the surface applied later.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I think its real - but I jsut cant think who it is. Can you read the obverse legend, at all?
I think it says CTILLA at the top - Octilla Severa - but she doesn't match this reverse either.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can see some tooling but not as much as I have seen on some Sestertii from Europe. The legend looks fairly genuine ie real........ I almost hate to say it but ....... It looks like Alexander Severus in drag !!
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United States
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FV, it's interesting that you say it looks like Severus Alexande. My first impression was that the face looked male, but the hair is surely female. If Warren is correct than this coin has been altered to a point where ID is going to be impossible. I think at this point the obverse legend is the only thing that is going to give us some indication who it is. Malamute67 if you can make out the letters please post them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Most of the Empresses of the 2nd & 3rd Centuries were a rather 'frightening' looking ! The standards of feminine beauty seem to have taken a turn for the worse ..... things were tough all over.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The more I look at this one the more certain I am that someone has taken an Alexander Sev and made him into a 'girlie man'. The temple on the reverse really looks like it was hand 'drawn' with a dremel tool. Probably antiqued like an old bookcase with 3 layers of different colored paint and then hand rubbed. My question is ...... who is selling it ? It looks like a dealers photo.
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Valued Member
Spain
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CRAZY! That is what you can think .... I bought that coin directly to the seller,that long ago I know. I have identified it, and the conclusion is that not exists! There are no references on that empress,then is false and very well made,or is an unknown coin..... That empress is FABIA ORESTILLA,Wife of GORDIANUS I.There are no known coins,and history is not clear about his life... http://fabpedigree.com/s017/f415161.htmLegend on coin is now easy,her name is complet at left!! FABIA ORESTILLA.... |
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United States
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I admit that yes that is what it appears to say FABIA ORESTILLA. But why does the reverse say AVG when the varieties of Gordian I & II all appear to have the AVGG. I can't remember ever seeing PAX seated inside a temple either. The only reference on Google is on Wiki which seems to be sceptical that 'she' even existed. The facial features of Alexander Severus and Gordian I are remarkably similar too. But Gordian was in his eighties. It seems unlikely to me thay he would have associated a wife in a 'reign' that lasted a few weeks. I am not convinced.
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Valued Member
Spain
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The doubts,are reasonable,but who and how someone can clarify one thing on which there is nothing to compare.The legend of the currency, it is not amended,the patina seems genuine, and the wear is not an artificial invention,or "at least so it seems.This is a incomparable currency,therefore already say that it is a fake,or unknown ....
There are so many pages that are skeptical of its existence,as others by the claim,what nobody knows is if she had a currency .Nor is it so rare to want a currency of your wife .... PERTINAX had almost 70 and made coins with his wife TITIANA,Didius Julianus more than 60 and made his wife and his daughter,and are genuine rarities!
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03/17/2013 08:09 am
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