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First Protype Case For 20 For 20 Coins Completed.

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pretty much finished with the first prototype 20 for 20 case.I just have to put in a magnetic latch, the next case will have a small finger notch slot to remove coins, right now I just put a piece of cardboard over the coins and turn the case over for the coins to be removed. So I certainly hope to make some of these available to members, once I figure out a couple of things.So this is where I would like everyone to reply, what to you all think of the color,also the inner lid I rounded the corners, I am thinking maybe straight lines next time,and how many coin slots do you all think would work, also what type of a price do you think this item would be worth, and please base your price ideas on the number of coin slots, because I am sure not everyone thinks 21 coins would work,..also please add any thoughts on what I can do to make this better.My original thought was for the display to be on a desk or table, but I suppose it could also be easily mounted on a wall.Sorry to ramble on, but was hoping for a lot of input, as I will be doing the final prototype soon, and with all your help,i will offer a case in the trade or sell section. thanks again to all who reply.

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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VERY NICE.
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i also had the moderator's remove the first topic of this just so we can keep things current, again thanks in advance to all who take the time to reply..
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VanguardKnight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's an outstanding design on the case. I'm not sure this question has been asked, but there hasn't been any clear indication that the series will be limited. Are you designing the case with a possible limit in mind, or you're expecting multiple cases to be bought if the 20/20 coins go beyond the capacity of 1 case?
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First of all - nice work!!
I'll repeat it again and again.
So much effort and work was put here.

Here my points:
The color - great, suitable for silver.
Number of coins: 21 is too much. Up to 12 is preferable. Now we have 8, and I believe, we will have 2 coins more in this year, so for the 2011-2013 period - 10 coins, this will be in ideal.
The concern - purely wooden surface may (and will) scrach the capsule, so may be, it is good to place some soft material inside the coin holes.

Price:
How can I translate someone's work into the money?
I do not know.
But easily will pay minimum CAD 50.00 for 10 slotted complete wooden box.
Tell me the cost of the materials and I can estimate more exactly.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my thinking was 3 coins a year, then the case is good for 7 years..but no one knows for sure,i think I could sell a lot of them with 12-15 slots as people could fill them with the 8 existing coins, and still have room for future coins,i suppose I could do a 9 coin case, then let people buy another 9 coin case when they release the 10th coin, lol.. But my first impression was to go with a bigger number 21..that';s why I was asking opinions of the number of slots you all thought was a good idea..
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silverwolf - it looks great. I have a quick question, what are the measurements of the case?

What if you offered people the opportunity to select their stain from a limited number of stains. For me, I like a really dark stain, where you almost can't see the grain of the wood (like cherry or mahogany). I know some people like dark stains, others prefer medium stains and light stains.

Also, as VanguardKnight mentioned, what happens if the 20 for 20 series continues beyond the box's capacity, or worse, stops at the next coin and the slots don't become filled?

Also, what if you made a wooden edge for the top see through portion. I'm thinking where the bottom that holds the coins is wooden, and the top is wooden as well, but you have a see-through window. So the top wood section would exactly match the bottom edge, but you'd see the coins through the see through section. And that way you could put the hinge on the inside. I'm not sure if the see-through portion would slide into the top wood part or be glued to the top wood section in that design.

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No space for the certificates?
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
21 is good for prototype.
May be other people will like this amount of slots.

I think better to have part completed, and to start (or not) new set. This way (few coins) they also manageable: years, themes, like/do not like, keep/give as gift.
Another benefit of the small box: will be less empty slots.

Big box could save a place and to serve as great display.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VanguardKnight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
silverwolf you're doing great work with this box. I have only had a few minutes to analyze the design, but if I come up with suggestions, I'll post them here. For now I would ditto silveroid's comment about the wood scratching the capsule. But I'm sure you could find a way to make the slots big enough to secure the capsule and coin, but loose enough to not cause any major damage to the capsule.

I would purchase 1 or 2 for sure.
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the option of the plexiglass lid on top of the wood or under it is easy enough to switch out, and yes color options would be available, as well as getting it unfinished so you could finish it yourself..

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this case measure 11-1/2 by 5-1/2 inches, also the coins do not fit snuggly into slots, there is a tiny bit of play, no worry of scratches from tight fit.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VanguardKnight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're going to give the RCM box designers a serious run for their money. I really like this box.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silverwolf - I think the plexiglass window with the wooden edging really takes the case to a whole other level. Combine that window with the first picture you posted (the sunken rounded edging) - and you've got something a lot of people would buy. I actually like the rounded corners over straight ones, but that's just a personal preference.

Also, as Panda mentioned, would you have a space for the certificates? Maybe at the bottom of the box, you could hollow out a space that can latch or be opened to store the certificates?
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1 spot underneath for COA's would be great.
2 the wood trim on the top would be best IMO
3 some sort of felt or soft material
4 instead of a latch, I'd prefer small magnet inset in the wood, like mint sets.
5 for color I think darker the better
6 (size) I think 3 by 5 or 3 by 4. Of course, as the series grows, you get a new box. I feel 12 would be best.
7 engrave or paint in fancy writing the years on the front or side of the case. There should be 4 this year. It could say 2010-2014 or whatever the years will be.

I really think to sell them for real money, a felt of some kind is a must. You might have to pay someone to do it professionally. Just take that into account when pricing, with the felt, the coins will fit a little more snugly wich would be great.
I think you've done a great job so far, keep up the good work.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheOne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great looking box every thing looks good

Lots of whole is better (4 coins per year for many years)
Felt so my capsule don't get scratch

Price; cost plus rate per hour to make

Example; $15 cost + $30/h labour if it takes 1h30 $45 = $60 + shipping
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