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translateltd New Member New Zealand 5 Posts	Posted 10/03/2013 02:01 am The mystery third party has now registered :-) We can add the 1980-86 "circulating vs. mint set" differences in date detail, too. One of our colleagues in Australia found all sorts of differences in the fonts between various circulating and mint set issues a few years ago, though the date detail is the most obvious point of difference in the 1980-86 group. A photo guide to the date differences also appeared in the NZNJ some years ago. It would be great to have a compendium showing all of these documented differences at some stage, though it would be a massive undertaking. For the moment, it's "just" a matter of tracking down the printed references. Edited by translateltd 10/03/2013 02:03 am Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 10/04/2013 03:29 am Hi Translated Mike Jack: Translated can give you the info you are looking for. Report this Post to the Staff
translateltd New Member New Zealand 5 Posts	Posted 10/04/2013 04:41 am Bear with me and I'll put together a list of all the varieties I know of ... Report this Post to the Staff
translateltd New Member New Zealand 5 Posts	Posted 10/04/2013 05:13 am Re the COOKBI edge - as far as I can tell, the edge inscription was made in sections, and the "plain" (or hyphenated) section was missed out entirely in this case, bringing the words up against each other with no gap. There is a double-size gap further round the edge, suggesting a double spacer was placed at that point in error. No idea of relative frequency, though dealer Don Ion did a quick check of 20 or so 1969 $1 coins that he had in hand when I published the discovery and found two no-hyphens and one COOKBI, if that's any guide. It had apparently been noticed by others many years earlier, but never published to my knowledge. Here's my provisional list of decimal varieties and errors, by denomination. It doesn't include one-off design changes (50c bicentenary edge; $2 kingfisher; 10c tuatara). It repeats many of those mentioned above, and there will doubtless be more we can add over time. NZ Decimal Coin Varieties/Errors 1c 1971, 1980-85 circ vs. mint set; 1984-85 recut obverse on circ coins but not sets 2c ND (1967) Bahamas Mule; 1971, 1980-85 circ vs. mint set; 1984-85 recut obverse on circ coins but not sets 5c 1967 no sea; 1967 no tail triangle; 1968 no sea (reported but unconfirmed); 1971, 1980-85 circ vs. mint set; 1985 recut obverse on circ coins but not sets; 1981 Canadian 10c mule; 1999 wart nose (caused by die cracking); see R Richards Journal article (NZNJ 85, Dec 2006) for many more 10c 1971, 1980-85 circ vs. mint set; 1985 recut obverse on circ coins but not sets; 2007 to date circ vs. mint set issues; also different composition and weight of mint set coins from 2010 (Utrecht Mint strikes); ND (2011) error in proof set issue 20c 1971, 1980-85 circ vs. mint set; 1984-85 recut obverse on circ coins but not sets; 1975 struck on HK$2 blank; 2008 to date circ vs. mint set issues; also different composition and weight of mint set coins from 2010 (Utrecht Mint strikes) 50c 1967 "dot over 1"; 1985 Canadian $1 mule; 1988 recut reverse with differences in rigging/size of JB initials etc (also known on 1986?); 2009 to date circ vs. mint set issues; also different composition and weight of mint set coins from 2010 (Utrecht Mint strikes) $1 1969 no hyphen; 1969 COOKBI (no hyphen or space); 2005 with date Cud (top half of 5 filled); recent circ vs. mint set issues (2009 $1 with "wire rims" in proof sets); also different composition and weight of mint set coins from 2010 (Utrecht Mint strikes); 2008 "Butterfly lips" (large Cuds caused by die cracking); 2010 "Goitre" (ditto) $2 1998 heron beak and claws touching rim/not touching rim; recent circ vs. mint set issues; also different composition and weight of mint set coins from 2010 (Utrecht Mint strikes) $5 2000 Solomon Islands mule Report this Post to the Staff
translateltd New Member New Zealand 5 Posts	Posted 10/04/2013 7:01 pm In NZNJ 59 (June 1980), Kerry Rodgers reported numerous 10-cent pieces with minor Cuds around the eyes in the reverse Koruru design which resembled small styes. Examples were noted for 1975, 76 and 77 coins at the time. The article was marred by an unfortunate typo, both in the title of the article itself and on the cover page, which reads The Style-Eyed Koruru in error. Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Jack Valued Member New Zealand 77 Posts	Posted 10/26/2013 09:08 am Thanks austrokiwi Hi translateltd WOW you are very well educated on this topic! Your list is amazing, I think we should keep putting forward our findings and our lists on here, we need them ALL in one place. Thank you so very much for joining CCF and putting together that list. It's nice to meet you online here, I have dealt with you before a few times on TradeMe, always been good :) I have found so many different Cuds on the 2000 - 2010 $1 obverse, the coolest one so far being https://goccf.com/t/159251 One error which I don't think has been mentioned yet is the 2008 $1 'crying kiwi' that has a large tear drop that looks as if it is coming out of the kiwi's eye. A point of interest with the '2008 crying kiwi $1' is the bottom left whisker on the kiwi, some of the 'crying kiwi' coins have a dot at the end of the whisker and some don't. It's the little things that I think should be noted. Thank you very much for your time translateltd and my apologies for the late reply. Edited by Mike Jack 10/26/2013 09:15 am Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Jack Valued Member New Zealand 77 Posts	Posted 11/23/2013 05:41 am QUESTION! (Again,,! you all are probably getting used to me doing this now tho.... here goes, A 'missing rope 50c' was kindly put forward with amazing photos (thank you) and it has me scratching my head. For my collection, should I be looking for both a 1986 and a 1988 no rope 50c help!?! Also, I think the 1994 Bi-metal 50c deserves a mention :) A beautiful coin. Report this Post to the Staff
dub New Member Australia 1 Posts	Posted 03/09/2014 10:21 pm Hi, A friend of mine has a 1989 20c NZ coin that looks gold (bronze?). I have searched but can't find reference of this error. The coin's diameter is 28mm. Is anyone able to assist and what value might it have. Thanks Dub Report this Post to the Staff
MUDEKI New Member New Zealand 28 Posts	Posted 03/16/2014 8:18 pm For a few years now I have been searching NZ past and current coins for errors and I believe there is more out there than what people think. Last Year I started trying to list photos of mainly the $1 coin errors so I could access them anywhere when needed but I just found this post and am interested to see what people think of some of these errors. 2008 $1 coins for example have over 20 different Cuds and die crack errors or combinations of these. There are also some nice errors on the 2009 50cent that I have been meaning to get some photos of. Here is the link to the photo bucket site I have loaded them onto http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/1...ort=3&page=0 I hope that works any questions feel free to post or email me Report this Post to the Staff
wojciech_sz New Member Poland 47 Posts	Posted 03/17/2014 08:37 am MUDEKI I assume You are roll hunting NZ, right? Report this Post to the Staff
MUDEKI New Member New Zealand 28 Posts	Posted 03/18/2014 05:41 am Sadly yes lol Since the 2004 dollar coins were released I have managed to get rolls or bags of rolls only containing the most recent year to be put into circulation. I did also study 5000 one dollar coins at one point to try and see what percentage of errors I could find in each year however I really need to get some coins from a different region as even when studying new rolls errors seem to be bunched together with other coins made at the same time. In December I managed to get 3000 mint 2010 coins and one bag of 1000 contained almost 300 of one error yet the other 2 bags contained less than 20. I collect any other error/variety coin and medallic commemorative I come across but I do really enjoy searching mint rolls for the errors The photos of some of the errors on the 2009 50cent are on that link now the die crack on the ship is my favourite followed by the missing B of JB but there are also some other errors I am still searching for multiples of before I list them there Report this Post to the Staff
Nevol Formerly nancyc Australia 5385 Posts	Posted 03/18/2014 07:28 am I have over 200 NZ 3d's, all with errors, but I have no list or pictures of them. It's going to be a huge job to get them all organised. life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved Report this Post to the Staff
MUDEKI New Member New Zealand 28 Posts	Posted 03/18/2014 08:03 am Yes it is a huge job there seems to be a never ending list of die crack errors on the 3d's. Just this week I managed to look at an old catalogue Fully Illustrated Guide to New Zealand Coins and Varieties By Roy S Lester 1967. It is an amazing catalogue of forgotten varieties for example 4 different date spacing's on the 1941 3'd alone and on top of that there are die crack errors. Sadly this catalogue is almost impossible to find now. When I sorted my 3d years ago I found every year had die cracks from the Patu to the rim and most years also having interesting die cracks between letters. 1947 & 1953 were the years with the most with some coins having 4 or more errors. I am trying to get photos of my error coins but I am struggling with getting lighting right with my digital camera and the digital microscope just doesn't have the quality I was after Report this Post to the Staff
MUDEKI New Member New Zealand 28 Posts	Posted 04/18/2014 02:02 am Thoughts on these coins I have had them for a few years now decided to get some photos as at first I thought they were errors then I thought they were damaged after minting but having a closer look at them the rim is not disturbed in any way still feels flat to the touch and no obvious high points. Photos loaded on to a website I am working on under small dollars 2008 feel free to look around Coin #1 http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpre...resize/#main http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpre...resize/#main http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpre...resize/#main Coin 2 http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpre...size-3/#main http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpre...size-2/#main http://www.coinerrors.co.nz/wordpre...size-2/#main Report this Post to the Staff
Nevol Formerly nancyc Australia 5385 Posts	Posted 04/18/2014 02:29 am Wow. Great errors! It looks to me like the mint's machine was playing up and mangling the coins as they were pressed. Both 2008 coins, both 1 Dollar, so if the damage was pre existing, say 2 x damaged planchets, and the damaged bit just happens to land in the same spot in the press both times, and both areas of damage are very similar. What are the odds of that ? life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved Report this Post to the Staff
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