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The 65 Days Of Half And Large Cents!

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1838 Large Cent

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1839 Braided Hair Large Cent (Silly Head):
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paleoguy . . no disrespect intended - definitely a Silly Head but not Braided Hair. Back when I bought the 1839 Braided Hair it was sold as "Type of 1840". Even the '62 Red Book listed it that way. Note the positioning of the beads in the hair and that "Liberty" points to star #5.

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1839 Large Cent Silly Head w/obverse die crack N-9 R1
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1839 Large Cent Booby Head N-5 R1
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1839 Booby Head

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Why do they call them booby heads?
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Why do they call them booby heads?


NGC says "recognized by Liberty's exposed shoulder" and Wright says the booby head and silly head are whimsical terms. Interesting because I thought that in those days booby was used to describe a stupid person or dunce. I guess that showing some shoulder in 1839 was a bigger deal than today. Actually I think that some guy made up the name just for fun (sorry Kelly)
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I thought it was because of that big old beak the designer gave her...
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Actually, that was my first thought - some guy HAD to have made that one up.

EDIT: My reply was to cipster - ProfLiz has a good point as well
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Ah, the confusing year of Large Cent: 1839!


1839 Large Cent (Head of 1838)

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1839 Large Cent (Booby Head)

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1839 Large Cent (Silly Head)

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1839 Large Cent (Head of 1840)

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I don't have an 1839 over 1836 (with Plain Cords and a closed 9). Because it's RARE!! And RARE = expensive!!
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Why do they call them booby heads?


My curiosity about the origin of "Booby Head" got the better of me today. I quickly learned that this label appears in many coin books and catalogs back into the mid 1800's. The use of "Booby Head" was suggested by Liberty's "remarkable expression" wrote one cataloger.

In his "Encyclopedia of U.S. and Colonial Coins", Breen wrote that U.S. Mint Director Gobrecht got his inspiration for that modification of Lady Liberty from a painting that was on exhibit at the Philadelphia Museum in 1839. The painting by Benjamin West was entitled "Omni Vincit Amor" which translates to: the power of love in the three elements. Here's a pic of West's 1809 painting (scroll down the page):

http://hoocher.com/Benjamin_West/Benjamin_West.htm

One can see the similarity of the Venus profile to Gobrecht's 1839 rendition. Note that Venus is clothed in the painting. However, there are numerous works of art that portray her topless; like the "Venus de Milo" statue. Might it be that Gobrecht's inspiration, ala Venus, lead to the design modification being commonly referred to as the "Booby Head?"

Whadaya think, folks ... Does this theory hold milk ... water?

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Color me "Silly" and a "Boob" for mislabeling my 1839 as being a member of the "Braided Bunch"...... Life and thread goes on...
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