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 Posted 09/18/2013  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Ptolemys are in! Heres a picture of both next to my smallest ancient coin. They are indeed 42 and 40 but the 42mm one seems ot have a 'questionable' patina. I've messaged the guy, see what he thinks is up. I think 40mm is brass?

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 Posted 09/18/2013  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the thickness and weight?
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 Posted 09/18/2013  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah man! Just stashed them away, so I'm not sure on the thickness. The 42 is really chunky. The 40mm is much like a Blake 2d. I weighed both using a homemade balance and one came out to 72grams +-2.5grams, the other smaller one at 42 +-2.5 grams. The bulk of the uncertainty comes from wear to the reference coins I used (42mm one weighs 1 Morgan, 1 Peace dollar and 5 1ps).
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 Posted 09/18/2013  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I understood some of that :)
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 Posted 09/18/2013  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
now those are big bronzes..nice one ben.
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 Posted 09/18/2013  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! What worries you about the patina? Looks typical to me.
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 Posted 10/03/2013  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, since you all kept posting those awesome big ptolemy coins, I had to get one. this is totally your fault.

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ptolemy iii euergetes
246-222 bc
ae hemidrachm
o: zeus
r: eagle on thunderbolt, cornucopia...epsilon monogram.
sv 974
40 mm
43.6 g
5 mm thick!

this coin is probably going to just set on my desk for a while before it goes in the ol' achieve...to fun to play with.




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 Posted 10/03/2013  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wheeeeee! Chris got a Big Bronze! Nice one!

Singing ILBB right now.

Hey, why don't some of you clever folks finish the lyric re-write? Post it here.

I dare someone to sing it that way at a karaoke bar. Video please :D

Maybe we should have contest, submit your karaoke vid...
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 Posted 10/03/2013  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My latest big bronze: Justinian I follis, 41 mm wide, 21 gr

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 Posted 10/03/2013  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ooooh, VK, that's purdy.
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 Posted 10/03/2013  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh my god TIF look at his bronze..it's so big. It looks like one of those professional numismatist bronzes. Who understands those numismatist guys. They only like it because it looks XF. I mean his bronze it's just so big. I can't believe it is so round. It's just out there. I mean, it's awesome. Look it's just so bronze.

How's that TIF? I didn't format it very well
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 Posted 10/03/2013  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You missed the best part of all. I think the song went something like this

"Green and yeller" "Green and yeller"
Mother be quick ..... I'm gonna be sick and ..... lay me down to die
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 Posted 10/03/2013  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/31/2013  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one passed through my hands. I bought it on behalf of a friend, who tasked me with finding him a selection of interesting ancient coins. He like my large Ptolemaic bronzes and wanted one-- the biggest one I could find-- and this was the largest one on the market at the time I was shopping.

From Edgar L. Owen. Interestingly, the measurement was off, or perhaps the stated measurement was just listed as the typical size for the series. Seller said 48mm but I measure 49.5 mm. It is somewhat underweight for the series, at 91.2 gm.

Like most of the largest Ptolemy bronzes, the devices are not very crisp, and this coin has been overcleaned. An awesome coin nonetheless!

I am confused about attribution and understand that there is disagreement about which coins were minted by which Ptolemy. The PtolemAE Project lists this one under Ptolemy III while other sources, including the seller, as Ptolemy II. I'm reading various resources but am not sure which represent the most current thinking. If any of you can direct me towards better resources, please let me know.

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(per seller)
EGYPT, Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
285-246 BC
AE, 49.5 mm, 91.2 gm.
Obv: laureate head of Zeus Ammon right
Rev: eagle standing left on thunderbolt looking right, wings partly spread, E monogram between eagle's legs
Ref: Sear 7782
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10/31/2013 05:31 am
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 Posted 10/31/2013  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
awsome, biggest ancient coin I've ever seen! Didnt you feel tempted to keep it?
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