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Are die clashes, Machine Doubling, strike trough's Etc.. considered errors or varieties. Thanks for the help. ;)
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Some errors are one of a kind. I read somewhere there has to be 3 errors basically the same before it even gets close to being a variety.
But Iam not sure how that works. Someone will know.
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"Varieties" are caused by a defect on or deliberate alteration to the die - either the working die or one of the master hubs or dies. "Errors" are caused by a defect in or alteration to some other aspect of coinage production.

Thus, die clashes are "varieties" - they appear on very coin made by that die after the clash happens until the die is removed from production. As I understand it, many of the more highly sought after Morgan dollar VAMs are die clashes.

Strikethroughs are "errors" - they are one-off events. However, " Struck Through Grease" errors can become "filled die" varieties if the goo stuck on the die persists for long enough.

Machine Doubling is, strictly speaking, neither an error nor a variety - it's just an unintended by-product of normal, non-defective coin-producing operations.
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It's funny how " Machine Doubling" is classified as anything but an error but all words point to the same thing and in fact...correct me if I'm wrong ...rectified at the mint if noticed or all coins would have doubling effects on a regular basis...I don't see this.

Funny thing...since I've started this hobby a few years ago I noticed anyone posting a "Machine Double" coin was basically told it was worthless. Same people saying later they keep the "best ones" of a particular year...

But I thought they were worthless?

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The are worth what someone will pay for them :).
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qbvbsite is completely right ! I read that someone that was on a tour Graceland (Elvis's Home) found a toe nail and thought it could be Elvis's LOL I think they sold it for thousands of dollars!

so I think people will buy almost anything!!

Elvis toe nail (YUCK!!)

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Good question JKOL2369 Iam glad you asked it, and thanks SAP for the good answer, Iam going to copy that answer into my notes. Back to the hunt Iam checking 25 mint rolls of so far very boring 2013 nickels with my fingers crossed.
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