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Best I Can Get On A $400 Budget? Help

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 Posted 04/22/2017  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can get the Canon software from their website. Have your cameras serial number handy. Ham
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Alright! Everything has arrived, although I thought I'd be waiting until mid-June for the extension tubes.

Now for the learning curve ._.

I tried to get a decent shot of this 1900 IHC that I had around. The first of each picture is simply cropped; the second is also "sharpened" to 4.0, whatever that actually means, but I wanted to get opinions on its use, etc.

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I hope the pictures load, when putting through the free optimizer, they said under 300kb, but when I uploaded them, it said they were slightly over. Oh well, guess we'll see (or not). Additionally, I noticed that for the sharpened images, I had to decrease the image quality to 75 to get them under 300kb. Is there a way to track how large the file size will be and compensate for this so I can avoid having to use the web optimizer? Didn't see how to do this while trying to explore the image editor.

Thanks for any feedback, and MANY thanks to everyone who has helped me get this far. After I get a rudimentary grasp of how to get some pics, I intend to write a more thorough thank you, as well as a run down of costs, etc.
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 Posted 05/01/2017  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice first pics!

First thing I see is that the left side is out of focus but right side is OK. This probably means your camera is not quite square to the coin. Try focusing on on the surface the coin is sitting on, with the aperture set big as it can go, and then adjusting the camera mount so all 4 corners come in and out of focus the same. There is another method using a mirror but you're far enough from level that you can just start with the simple method first.

What editing program are you using? Sharpening of "4" is probably too much, but "0" is too little. I'd try "1" or "2".

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You caught me! I noticed after I'd uploaded these pics that the camera had tilted slightly. When using the helicoid to focus, I'd accidentally knocked it a little off. Whoops.

The editing program I'm using is Digital Photo Professional 4, the software from the Canon website.

I took a few more pics of the same coin with a little different lighting, and I hope better focus. Because the source files are so huge (5-7Mb seems typical), it takes a long time to upload them via my cell phone connection to the optimizer. If I can optimize the pics down to under 300kb without having to run them through the web optimizer, that would be great. Can I do this with DPP?
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My older version of DPP has a "quality" slider, so this coupled with the final image size (pixels) give you the ability to adjust the final image size (bytes). Unfortunately my version doesn't tell you the expected image size, so it's trial and error.
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Okay, so these were taken with different lighting, plus I tried to make sure the camera was square to get everything in better focus. I played with the level of sharpness, and decided I liked 1.3, but I hope you'll share your opinion regarding how that turned out.

Also, when saving the file, I resized down to 1000x1000 which dramatically reduced the file size without even playing with that image quality slider. Still had to put it through the web optimizer, but it's a much faster process now, only uploading ~1.4Mb files to be compressed.

Well, without further ado, here are some more trials of the same coin.

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 Posted 05/02/2017  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job, Evan
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~Thank you~

After finally receiving all the components and getting to experiment with them a bit, I'd like to express my gratitude to everyone who participated in building this thread. I'm quite certain I'd never have been able to find my way without all the information, help, and encouragement everyone has provided.

For those who feel overwhelmed (like I did) by the idea of building this photography setup, and whose brains experience much of the preceding discourse like some foreign language, I encourage you to stick with it. I was seriously concerned that I would lack the affinity needed to effectively operate photo equipment and software so totally unfamiliar to me. Heck, I was often nervous that I was unintentionally buying the wrong items. But with the generous support (i.e. hand-holding) of especially Andy and Ray, I'm now able to share what I consider to be rather nice pictures. And although this thread was started several years ago now, I still came in under $400, which I plan to detail in a separate post.

A special extra thank you belongs to Ray -- sine qua non. We may not truly be able to fully appreciate what you've shared with us. Thank you so much.
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Not "rather" but "very" nice pics.

Now for the pet peeve...my only complaint is that your reverse is rotated a little CCW. Obverse looks correct. If that's my only complaint you are doing well.
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Ah, you're right, of course. A little rotated. I will see if I can edit the original so I don't have to take a new pic.
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Are you kidding me! I've been striving for those results for years, and not even come close.
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I can hardly believe that I can take pictures of this quality already. Here is the fixed reverse.

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Excellent!!
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Amazing photos well done :) Are you raising the coin up on a bit of cork or downling? I highly recommend it as it focusses the coin and gives a lovely blurred background.

Your photos look spot on to me. I usually sharpen about 30 percent and contrast about 6 and brightness 2, on the Canon editing software. But it depends entirely on the amount of lighting, daylight and coin! I find it hard to capture mint state shillings, so I'm working on those. But for old silver coins that are a little bit worn, this setup works incredibly well for me !
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Thanks Toby, I am not yet raising the coin, but I will keep that in mind. Need to get some cork. I have been busy and haven't gotten to try taking pictures of different denominations, nor tried any BU copper. I thought some P.U. copper would be a good place to start. =p
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