Restored Smackdown VI - Carthage - Coin Community Forum

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Ancientnoob Pillar of the Community United States 5155 Posts	Posted 09/30/2013 10:33 pm For those that are new the Smackdown, acts a contest (with A PRIZE) or a venue to showcase coins from around the Ancient and Medieval or Modern world with a stated attribute and or commonality. Everyone is encourage to attempt an entry, and even those who cannot enter can and should vote, for your top 3 favorites. Here are the rules 1) A maximum of two (2) coins per Member. 2) Entries can invoke any aspect of a Carthage. 3) Coins after 2013 are not allowed.(Any Era) 4) Voting: vote for 3 coins in order of preference, Gold (3pts), Silver (2pts), Bronze (1pt). 5) Host announces the winner. Winner chooses next Smackdown Subject and is host. 6) You do not have to enter a coin to vote but please do try to enter something. 7) Base your votes on any criteria you like, eye appeal, rarity, quality, anything you like. 8) Final decision if two coins have the same score and the same number of gold and will be the host's choice. 9) Enjoy. Entries Begin Immediately and Submission Ends @ 21:00hrs EST Friday October 4, 2013, Voting will begin. Scores will be tabulated and announced on Sunday October 6, 2013, @ 21:00hrs EST. Host examples: (Please do not vote for me) Rare North Africa, Zeugitana, Carthage AR Shekel (didrachm) Struck circa 264 - 241 B.C. Obverse: Head of Tanit facing left. Reverse: Horse standing right, head turned left, palm tree behind. Diameter: 21 mm x 6.90 grams. ref: SNGCOP 141, Provenance: Ex. Collection of Professor J.E.Seaver. Professor Seaver taught ancient history at the University of Kansas and was a keen opera lover, hosting his own radio show on the subject for nearly 60 years. He was a passionate collector of ancient coins and often used them to aid his teaching. Host examples: (Please do not vote for me) Rare Billon Tridrachm of Hannibal Second Punic War North Africa, Zeugitana, Carthage Hannibal Barca s. 210-205 BC Billon Tri-drachm 25.6mm x 10.54g Obverse: Bust of Tanit Left. Reverse: Horse Standing right, Palm tree behind. ref. Lorber-168 "Coin Hoards Vol. IX 2002 Punic "Horse & Palm" Billon Tridrachms" by C. Lorber Edited by Ancientnoob 09/30/2013 10:36 pm Report this Post to the Staff

MartiVltori Pillar of the Community United States 870 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 12:16 am I am basing this entry on the fact that it is the only coin of Carthage that I own. :) AE 15, 220 - 215 B.C., Zeugitania, 15mm, 2.78g, 45°, SNG Copenhagen 109. Obv: Head of Tanit left, wreathed with corn, wearing necklace and earring. Rev: Horse standing right, palm tree in background. Edited by MartiVltori 10/01/2013 12:17 am Report this Post to the Staff
Ancientnoob Pillar of the Community United States 5155 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 12:27 am Wow wonderful piece, Marti! Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 12:53 am Maximian AE Follis Obv: IMP MAXIMIANVS PF AVG Obv: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART, Carthage standing, holding fruits Carthage mint Edited by VisigothKing 10/01/2013 12:54 am Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 12:55 am Pishpash, the Carthage mint wasn't in operation during the time of Probus. It operated from 296-307 closed for a short time and reopened again from 308-311. Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 01:05 am I'm sure it won't win even any bronze votes, but wanted to go with something a little different, that pertains to Carthage: Struck under Thrasamund, Hilderic, or Gelimer, Vandal Kingdom of North Africa AE 4 Nummi Obv: Bust of Carthage (I believe) facing left, holding palm branch Rev: Bar over N over IIII Carthage mint, struck 498-534 AD Ref: BMC 12 Edited by VisigothKing 10/01/2013 01:06 am Report this Post to the Staff
MartiVltori Pillar of the Community United States 870 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 01:08 am Pish, If I'm not mistaken that mint mark is Serdica. Report this Post to the Staff
pishpash Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 3626 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 01:11 am I will sit this one out then Report this Post to the Staff
pishpash Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 3626 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 01:15 am Thanks Marti, didn't spot your reply (through the tears) :) Report this Post to the Staff
ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 07:09 am Marti, that's a really nice example-- great details. I wonder if the attribution is wrong though. The hairstyle and horse look more like the 350-300 BC coins. Some examples: http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Pu...186-265.html http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Pu...ugitana.html http://wildwinds.com/coins/greece/z...GCop_109.jpg (pic), http://wildwinds.com/coins/greece/z...GCop_109.txt (text) I have only one Carthaginian coin as well, as I'm sure most of you have already seen Still trying to take great pictures, not completely happy with any of them yet. Zeugitana, Carthage 15 Shekel AE44, 94.32g (per NGC label-- it was certified/graded but not slabbed, 'too big' lol; I measure 44.5mm and 95.4g) c.early 2nd Century BC ("c. 200 BC" per magnagracia) Obverse: wreathed head of Tanit left Reverse: horse prancing right, left foreleg raised; solar disc flanked by uraei above 4 specimens known to magnagraecia. Don't know if this is one of them. I haven't seen a picture of this type anywhere except magnagraecia. There is a second variety of 15-shekel in which the horse does not have a raised foreleg. I've seen a few of those in pictures on the web (Edgar L. Owen, wildwinds) This coin's info, per magnagraecia: http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Pu...pl28-12.html Edited by ThisIsFun 10/01/2013 11:37 am Report this Post to the Staff
pishpash Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 3626 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 10:05 am If I could have any coin in the world, it would be that one TIF. Report this Post to the Staff
ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 10:25 am Thanks, pish I feel very lucky to have it. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 10:32 am Wow! that is a big coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Whizb4ng Pillar of the Community Canada 579 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 10:39 am I think I may have to sit this one out I don't think I have any coins connected to Carthage. Will do a double check when I get home. Report this Post to the Staff
MartiVltori Pillar of the Community United States 870 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 11:12 am Quote: Marti, that's a really nice example-- great details. I wonder if the attribution is wrong though. The hairstyle and horse look more like the 350-300 BC coins. I have thought the same thing myself. This was the attribution it came with but it does seem to more closely resemble earlier coins. I have seen quite a bit of variation though in these coins and I am not enough of an expert to judge. By the way, that is a stunning coin you have there! Edited by MartiVltori 10/01/2013 11:18 am Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 10/01/2013 3:14 pm I have two that are not very good but I'll post them anyway. Carthage, Zeugitana Tanit I 15mm x 1.4 grams circa 300 BC SNG COPENHAGEN 109 Diocletian IMP C DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG VOT XX FK (Felix Carthage) RIC VI 37A CARTHAGE Post Reform Report this Post to the Staff
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