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Pillar of the Community
United States
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RE Alex the Great Quote: This gave him the right to put his head on the coinage and began the tradition of rulers (who claimed they were ordained by god) to put there portraits on their coins. It was also telling that he believed himself as immortal from the tales of his exploits in battle and finally his demise (caused by a punctured lung when he was hit by an arrow trying to take a castle singlehandedly.) I hadn't heard that death scenario before. The sources I've read say that he died of a febrile illness (Malaria? Typhoid? West Nile encephalopathy?), first stricken after a night of heavy drinking. Or that he died from being given poisoned wine. Apparently the exact reason for his death remains the subject of much speculation. Quote: I want to know if I get still more bonus points for posting a coin of Dionysos while having a glass of wine and grapes?  Sounds worthy to me!
Edited by ThisIsFun 11/02/2013 05:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
2624 Posts |
The account which I heard he was first up a ladder trying to get over a wall while storming a battlement, he did not die immediately but was sickly for some months before finally passing by some complication relating to that wound.
I think this information came from a National Geographic channel documentary on him... how reliable a source that is may be questionable.
Edited by DavidUK 11/02/2013 06:47 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5155 Posts |
I heard he drank himself to death. (Alcohol poisoning)
I read that he died from complications of an ankle injury he sustained while battling Indians.
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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I tried to find a link to the documentary but all those I found suggest a poisoning/alcohol related death with many saying "what happened we will never know"
However I did find reference to the arrow wound on wiki... for your perusal I have cut and pasted the related paragraphs.
Siege of Multanese Citadel[edit]
Alexander arranged two separate forces, one to be led by himself and the other by Perdiccas. The Indians almost immediately retreated into the main citadel. The citadel was substantial, with its walls a mile around.[30] But Alexander was able to force one of the gates, and made his way into the outer parts of the citadel.[30] There the Macedonians began to undermine the next layer of walls.[citation needed]
Alexander quickly became impatient at the pace of the siege, so he grabbed a ladder and went up it himself.[30] He was followed by only two soldiers. The rest of the soldiers, nervous about the safety of their king, crowded the ladders to get up so that they could protect him. There were too many of them, and the ladders collapsed under the weight. The Mallians realised who Alexander was, and focused their energies on him. Many of Alexander's men held out their arms and called for him to jump down to them.[31] The King, however, would not.[citation needed]
Alexander leaped into the inner area of the citadel.[32] There, he killed the Mallians' leader.[33] But an arrow penetrated Alexander's lung, and he was severely wounded.[34] The Macedonians believed Alexander dead. After gaining entrance to the city, they planned to kill everyone in revenge.[citation needed]
Result[edit]
When the Macedonians reached Alexander, some of them placed him on a shield and quickly ran back with him to a tent.[35] An incision was made and the arrow head was withdrawn from the wound. The soldiers were very anxious about his health, since they believed he was the only one who could lead them back home.[36][page needed] For some days he hovered between life and death.
The main body of the army, four days away from Alexander's location, heard that he was dead.[35] Rumours spread like wildfire, and when reports came in that he was alive and was recovering, they would not believe it.[37] He was eventually placed upon a boat where he could see the troops, and the troops could see him.[36][page needed] However, his health was in such a delicate state that during his course down the river they would not even row the boat, for fear that the oars slapping the water would disturb him.[38][clarification needed]
Four days afterwards, the Macedonians reached a fertile country which the natives had completely deserted.[39] Alexander was confronted by some of his close companions. They told him that he should not expose himself so recklessly in battle.[38] Alexander received the final submission of the Malli, who had submitted after the capture of their capital city. He sent their ambassadors away, and they returned later with 300 four horse chariots.[40] In addition to this, Alexander also received 1,000 Indian shields, a number of lions and 100 talents.[40]
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United States
4973 Posts |
almost forgot about the smackdown! how about some immortal fellows are still in business. here's shiva..   shiva on reverse with bull, 1st picture. kushan coin, vasu deva, 195-230 ad the big JC..this is my favorite picture of christ on a coin I have, shows christ as a boy.   alexius iii, 1195-1203 reverse is alexius iii with st. constantine
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Canada
579 Posts |
I am the competition FR spoke of with the Luna coin. I had forgotten about the Smackdown due to my incredibly busy, yet fun, week. Was at a University Football game yesterday, Coin Show today, and Comic Con tomorrow. I let my inner nerd reign free this weekend since the gf had to be on the farm moving cattle for Winter (yes she is WAY more tough than I am) Here we go with the coins Caracalla AE Denarius AD 217 Obv. ANTONINVS PIVS AVG GERM laureate bust right Rev. P M TR P XX COS IIII P P Luna with crescent on head & cloak flying behind her, driving biga of bulls left   Luna the divine embodiment of the Moon. Vergil referred to her and Sol as the world's clearest sources of light and Varro lists her as one of the 12 divinities who are required in agriculture. Postumus AR Antoninianus IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG radiate, draped, and curaissed bust right FIDES MILITVM Fides standing left holding two standards   Fides is the goddess of Trust. She had a temple on the Capitol where the Senate would sign and house peace treaties with other nations. Where Fides would guard them. There was also a yearly fesitval to her. Edit: I also think I have found the secret to taking decent photos with a tablet. These ones aren't too bad!
Edited by Whizb4ng 11/02/2013 9:25 pm
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United States
870 Posts |
Ok I will throw a couple in. How about the King and Queen. Jupiter - Nice reverse on this one. I love the thunderbolt. Philip II (as Caesar) AR Antoninianus, A.D. 245-246, Rome, 23.0mm, 3.77g, 0°, RIC IV 213. Obv: M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES. Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev: IOVI CONSERVAT. Jupiter standing left, thunderbolt in right, scepter in left.  Juno - Pretty poor shape but Juno is one you don't see too often. Maybe I will get the 5 extra pts. :) Trebonianus Gallus (A.D. 251-253) AR Antoninianus, A.D. 251, Antioch, 22.0mm, 3.32g, 0°, RIC IV 83; scarce. Obv: IMP C C VIB TREB GALLVS P F AVG. Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev: IVNO MARTIALIS. Juno seated left, stalks of grain in right and scepter in left; VI in ex. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
2624 Posts |
Only a few more days to get them in (Friday midnight GMT) don't be shy folks!
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
2624 Posts |
Last chance for entries ^^ better late than never ^^
Voting starts in 14 hours (GMT Midnight)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2480 Posts |
Wow, time flies! I'll try to find something to enter after work, thanks for the reminder.
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
1204 Posts |
Me too! Ill try to post something after work
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
1204 Posts |
A little late, but here is my contribution to this smackdown: Felicias, goddess of good luck! Trajan AR Denarius. 112-114 AD. IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P COS VI P P, laureate draped bust right / S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI, Felicitas standing, holding caduceus & cornucopia. RSC 404  
Edited by Dutchgulden 11/08/2013 2:06 pm
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Russian Federation
5180 Posts |
Technically, as far as I can tell, as I write this (10pm GMT) nobody entered Zeus[1] (though somebody did enter Jupiter). And that's probably cheating with the second coin (but I didn't want to enter a Victory[2], and I don't have that many ancients). But still... Coin #1:   Antioch, civic/"semi-autonomous" issue, probably 1st century BC. Head of Zeus right/Zeus on throne left, Nike in extended hand, scepter behind in other hand (there's also some Greek writing; copying from Wildwinds, it says ANTIOXEWN THS METROPOLEWS or somesuch). 18mm. Coin #2 (the "cheating" one):   Pantikapaion, dichalkon or tetrachalkon (sources differ), circa 250-200 BC [Anokhin 145]. Head of Pan? right/bow, arrow right, ПANTI below. 16mm. The "cheating" part? While other Pantikapaion coins with somewhat similar designs do bear the Pan identification, this particular type is normally identified as "bearded satyr" (though I did see it attributed as "Pan" somewhere, hence the inclusion). And honestly, I'm not entirely sure whether Pan counts as a god either. Coin #3 (spare):   Valens (364-378 CE) Obverse: DN VALEN-S PF AVG, bust facing right Reverse: SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE, Victory advancing left, SMK[A?] in exergue Cyzicus mint; copper, uncertain denomination (17mm) [attribution essentially copied from an earlier post - no idea how complete it is] [1] if we get even more technically, I'm pretty sure Ancientnoob's second entry has a Zeus on it, but he seemed to ignore that in the post itself [2] I did, ultimately, decide to include a spare third coin in case my second coin doesn't actually count, since I realized that my first coin has a Nike on it so would give me bonus points in that case  count whatever one you want... as far as ancient coins go, my collection is pretty darn tiny.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2480 Posts |
Well darn, I just haven't had time to think about an entry. A very punishing couple of weeks, plus car trouble.
I'll vote though :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
582 Posts |
I'm going to change my entry... AS Caligula , Vesta Obverse : C CAESAR DIVI AVG PRON AVG P M TR P III P P, Bare head left of Caligula Reverse : VESTA above, S C across field, Vesta seated left, holding patera and sceptre  Denarii Trajan, Genius Obverse : IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC PM TR P COSVI PP / Laureate, draped bust right Reverse : SPQR OPTIMO PRINCIPI / Genius standing facing, holding patera and corn ears  
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