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Father And Son: A Macrinus And Diadumenian Provincial

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For a certain themed collection, I've been hunting for an Artemis and hound issue. Focused in on provincials, decided to go with this father and son twofer, and found the right one for the right price at the recent Pecunem auction.

Father-And-Son:--A-Macrinus-And-Diadumenian-Provincial

MOESIA INFERIOR. Marcianopolis
Macrinus, with Diadumenian, 217-218 AD
issued under governor P. Fu. Pontianus
AE27, 12.3 gm
Obv: AYT K M OΠEΛ CEV MAKPEINOC K M OΠE ANTΩNINOC,
Laureate head of Macrinus left and bare head of Diadumenian right, vis-à-vis.
Rev: VΠ ΠONTIANOV MAPKIANOΠOΛEITΩN,
Artemis advancing right, holding bow and drawing arrow from quiver; E to left.
Ref: Varbanov 1159 var. (obverse legend).

I have not double-checked the legends (not that they are entirely readable) nor the attribution.

When I receive a few outstanding shipments I'll finally have my first themed collection ready to present

In case you have not yet seen it, CCF member Bacchus2 has an incredibly detailed, interesting, and helpful site dedicated to the coins of Diadumenian: http://www.diadumenian.com/

This page gives a succinct background into that time in Roman history: http://www.diadumenian.com/Background.html

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Wow TIF, awesome coin, great details,great color, coins with Macrinus on it is a real plus...
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Great detail, lovely and clean. Really nice coin.
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that's a beauty! double heads and legend crammed with letters (both cool), cool reveres ...like the little hunting dog with artemis also. big and chunky also a plus.

that is a cool website bacchus2 made, also...enjoyed checking it out.
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Wow! Excellent details, usually these aren't this nice.
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Thats a lovely coin, How did you get the pics on a lovely black background?
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Photo editor. Ideally, I'd improve my set-up, devise a dowel to elevate the coin over a matte black background. Could save time if I'd just set it up.

Haven't done that yet so I just use a photo editor to turn the background solid black. Shot on a white piece of paper-- it makes the postprocessing easier.

I use Photoshop Elements but there are a variety of free online photo editors which are similar. pixlr.com is one I often recommend.
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Is that the paint bucket feature? I can see the sense in the white background when doing that, but when I photograph coins on a white background the quality of the picture drops, must be something to do with auto light settings.?
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Can I use this thread to ask what kind of camera that all of you ancient guys and gals use,i have changed up my photo shooting. I want to find the best camera and set up as possible, so please share with me your camera and setup..
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Canon S5 iS powershot for me..... (£50 s/h on ebay)
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Sure, Eng.

I'm using an old entry-level Canon DSLR, an EOS XS Rebel. One of these days I'll upgrade the body to one that supports live view on a laptop screen. Macro lens (Canon EFS 60mm).

I don't have a light tent, copy stand, or CloudDome so here's what I came up with on the cheap:

Father-And-Son:--A-Macrinus-And-Diadumenian-Provincial

Upturned large translucent plastic storage bin with a hole cut out for the lens. This lets me support the camera somewhat steadily while shooting squarely down on the coin. I have one halogen spot. Usually shoot with a flash but also use a folded-over white dishtowel on top to reduce the harshness. Sometimes I drape the thin white towel in front of the secondary light too. I use thick books to bring the coin close so that it fills the frame.

Best pictures have been when it's daylight (it's a bright room, this picture was taken at night), but still using the accessory light and flash.

I've tried shooting on black matte paper. Until I make a fancier setup (a dowel to elevate the coin over a black background, a real copy stand, etc) I'm having the best luck shooting on white paper-- easier to turn it black.

YOC-- I used to use the paint bucket but too often the coin edges were such that doing so make the ednges jagged and indistinct. If your coin picture has any bright reflections near the edge it will find those and turn those parts of your coin black. Fiddling with the sensitivity was annoying.

So now, although it is a PITA, I just use the paintbrush. I've got it down to a pretty quick routine and have one piece of advice that really makes the difference (highlighted in blue)

It's hard to keep a steady hand while tracing on the touchpad. Set your brush to something large-- very large, and make the brush edge softer (I set my slider to a hardness of 80). I'm shooting maximum resolution, not sure of the file size and that will affect your brush size choice. But FWIW, I first use a brush that is ~250 pixels in diameter to roughly get rid of the white, then change it to 85 pixels to carefully paint around the coin edge.

Here are the steps I take. I've done it so many times that it now only takes ~10-15 minutes max start to finish.

-crop the obverse and reverse to square
-large brush, paint quickly over the white, leaving just a little white around the coin
-change to smaller brush, paint carefully around each coin
-resize the canvas on the obverse, keeping the coin to the left side
-drag the reverse onto the obverse
-final touchups
-save as .psd
-resize to 800 pixels wide and use the "Save For Web" function so that I can easily see the file size (keeping it under 100k for CCF)

Taking good pictures is always a work in progress and I'm rarely completely happy with them. Lately I've been having trouble with focus.
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Nice instructions and set up pics. thanks, worthy of copying into the coin photography thread I would have thought? Someone on 'another' forum, suggested using a very white oven dish with a sheet of glass (from picture frame) over the top. they then set up on tripod and put coin on top of glass. This immediately eliminated the shadow apparently. they then paint bucketed it and dragged into the same frame with the obv, or rev. I find that my camera wants to focus on the background in that instance,.......
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I went to the photo threads and no one has these kinds of setups.Looks like many use I phones.
TIF thank you for sharing and all your info,your photos are awesome..
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