Thinking Of Sending My Boc Hoard Gold Coins To CCCS

Thanks. I'm hoping to hear from a large number of members, in particular those who have used both PCGS and CCCS's services.

Also, how do the slabs compare in terms of clarity, scratchability, size, and overall look and feel. There are no holographic stickers on the reverse panel of CCCS; does this translate to easy-to-counterfeit slabs? I read somewhere that unlike PCGS slabs, CCCS slabs are watertight.

Again, I understand the immediate financial consequences -- these will sell for less on ebay; but have you checked the recent completed listings on ebay? Yes, sellers are asking for a lot for PCGS-slabbed ones, but almost nobody are buying them for these prices. Also, in the worst case, I'll have to "upgrade" them to PCGS slabs, but I assume they will come with regular PCGS inserts (and not the specially designed pink inserts) then. Do you think there will be any price difference between two PCGS slabs with similarly graded coins, one with a special "Canadian gold reserve" insert, and another with a plain or secure plus insert?

Finally, Louis confirmed that he will add some qualifier to distinguish these coins from non-BoC hoard coins, and although he don't usually, he will return the original capsule and peeled-out stickers if requested.

For us Canadians, sending them to PCGS is high maintenance.

Too costly, too much trouble for too little return.

Sounds good..........I am familiar with gold Hoard sell off last year...Some great coins, some not quite as good...So I ...

Wow, that's a lot of encouragement, thanks all. Please keep them coming, not just the good ones, but also the bad, and possibly the ugly ones.

doubleeagle59: My overall idea/motivation was to push this small company a (tiny little) bit towards breaking this US big-three monopoly; hopefully one day we will have a big company (and hopefully a "sustainable" one -- not just a one man show business) right here in Canada. To me, CCCS seems to have that potential and they are also willing to grow.

I'm happy to learn about the good quality slabs, darryldarryl.

Nathancrh1: The mint produced and released them during 1912-1914, but withdrew and held them for a century, before releasing some to collectors and melting the rest in 2012; thus these newly released coins are variously designated as "Ex Bank of Canada" (ICCS), "Bank of Canada Hoard" (NGC), "Canadian Gold Reserve" (PCGS), etc. Read the story here (concatenate the two lines, copy and paste to your browser; not sure why it is not working):

http://www.mint.ca/store/product/1912.jsp?
campaignName=war1912&pId=1200006&lang=en_CA

That reminds me, we must pick and propose a qualifier. We'll do a separate poll, maybe. Any suggestions/ideas will be appreciated.

Finally, Jello, yes, I plan to keep them for years; unfortunately, and as often, the RCM didn't do a good job encapsulating these; there are much quality control issues. For some coins, stickers are placed on the raised joints/seals of the two parts of the capsule; these stickers are trying to come off every time I try to have a look at the coin. Another capsule is very badly internally scratched, most likely as a result of the friction with the rim of the coin (the actual coin is beautiful). Also on the same coin, some of the black fillers/foams are already disintegrating -- all these are taking away from the beauty of the coin. I see issues mostly with the $5 coins (as they are thinner than the $10 ones, and often become loose in the capsule easily). This is why I want them TPG-ed...

I can't sleep, but had this most brilliant idea ; how about:

1. As the country name, we have:
"Dominion of Canada"

It was called just that in 1912, right?

2. As the qualifier/description *on the hard slab*, we have one of the following:
A) "Canadian Gold Standard", or
B) "Canadian Gold Standard (2012 Release)", or
C) "Canadian Gold Standard Release", or
D) "Canadian Gold Standard Hoard".

The first part relates to the history of why these coins were actually produced, i.e. to join the international gold standard movement; the latter (i.e. release/hoard) distinguishes these coins from those that were not stored in the Bank of Canada/RCM for the last 75 years.

I like 1.2A and 1.2B the most.

Now, have anyone seen Louis?

I assume all of you have a day job, eh?

Thanks, before I made my suggestions, I was speed-reading Wikipedia for this and it is in fact somewhat confusing; e.g. bank notes from that period did use that long name. Anyway, I agree with you, "Canada" would probably be the proper way to go; this will also be inline with all those earlier coins graded with "Canada" as the country name.

So, what's your vote on the qualifier?

Thanks, I assume you mean the whole thing, i.e.: "Canadian Gold Standard (2012 Release)".