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johncash New Member Italy 18 Posts	Posted 12/12/2013 12:46 pm Hi, can help me to identify if this is a token? Weight: 2.43 gr Size: 2.5 cm Thanks. Stefano * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

johncash New Member Italy 18 Posts	Posted 12/12/2013 12:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff
thedollarman Pillar of the Community Canada 4911 Posts	Posted 12/12/2013 5:50 pm Looks like a cast copy of something...........but what Well, I'm stumped. Feel free to call me Will. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 12/12/2013 5:54 pm The legend in the second pic concludes across the bottom with DEI MATER, then a cross, and the start of the legend: AVE. This is likely a legend that is found on 15th century french jetons: AVE MARIA STELLA DEI MATER. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 12/12/2013 9:12 pm The word VIVE occurs twice in the legend in the top pic, once at the bottom, after the cross that starts the legend, and again at the top of the pic. Here's another medieval French jeton, featuring the legend VIVE AMANT VIVE AMOURS, as well as a central cross fleuretty virtually identical to the one in the second pic. Your coin's legend's wording may be slightly different, and instead of filling out the remaining space at the end with decorative cinquefoils like this jeton, it seems to give the start of the Ave Maria motto from the other side: AVE M. Edited by philadelphian 12/12/2013 9:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 12/12/2013 9:42 pm Finally found this very jeton! The legends read +VIVE LE DVC x VIVE DVC x AVE M, and +AVE MARI STELLA DEI MATER: http://www.cgb.fr/princes-du-sang-r...90115,a.html Edited by philadelphian 12/12/2013 10:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Rmassey210 Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 12/15/2013 3:24 pm Nice find Philadelphian!! Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 12/15/2013 6:43 pm Thanks! By the way, the duke being praised in the legend is Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy (1396-1467). Report this Post to the Staff
Fuzzy317 Moderator United States 14463 Posts	Posted 12/15/2013 6:52 pm identified, moving this thread to the Token section Report this Post to the Staff
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