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 Posted 01/06/2014  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A very good question regarding 'plugs' . This one looks like it is filled with epoxy or some sort of clay maybe ?
If the hole is itself ancient I would view it as less offensive than having modern 'tooling' on the coin surfaces.
The fact that someone may have thought well enough of Victorinus to wear his image is itself interesting.
I was asked many years ago to plug a silver Tetradrachm for someone. I didn't like the idea but the owner was rather determined.
I used a small piece of sterling silver wire tapered on one side. I reamed out the hole and tapped the plug in then carefully 'dremeled' each side.
I wasn't impressed ....... The owner was thrilled.
To each his own as they say !

Due to the hole the coin gets a high end F in my view. The portrait is quite nice.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What would you grade this one?



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 Posted 01/07/2014  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say F.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Galleria Valleria ? Looks to be pretty good for the issue if that's what it is. I have never been able to find one to my liking (or price range either !)

I give it a straight F even with what looks to be 'corrosion'
The right side field on obv. seems smooth .... can't quite read the mint Rome ?
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 Posted 01/07/2014  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can agree with Fine. There is to much detail in the hair for a VG, yet the porous surface keeps it from a VF. I am loving the architecture.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tlk1508 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My husband has inherited a few roman coins and we only know the name of the coins. I am trying to find out if it is worth having them graded through pcgs if my husband was going to sell.

First one gold nomisma romanus iii 1028-1034 ad

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 Posted 01/07/2014  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tlk1508 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Second one
Tetradrachm Lyme 2nd century BC
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On the Galleria Valleria I am going for fine +, I think it's pretty decent :)
The last 2 are out of my league to be guessing on, though I don't agree with slabbing I would probably have the goldy done to get a better price even so, if I purchased a coin like that in a slab I would probably smash it out so I could touch it all the time!
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 Posted 01/07/2014  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These 2 coins are valuable. NGC will hammer you in shipping insurance, although coins like this generally do better in the slab. Once that lucky collector gets it it more than likely be broken out. Two great coins for sure.
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You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 01/07/2014  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are two beautiful and valuable coins. The gold Byzantine is fantastic and I would call the condition As Struck. I don't see any signs of wear the coin is well centered and clearly struck. I do see some hairlines on the surface where someone has rubbed the coin with a cloth. I don't think it would effect the grade thought.

The Greek silver coin is just as beautiful and I would grade it at EF+. The is some slight wear on this coin.

I would hate to see them slabbed though.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They look to be quite valuable coins. Grading them is beyond my job description for sure.

I would be concerned though about provenance. You say that you know only the name of the coins.
Do you know where they were acquired ? They appear to be "Museum Quality" and would probably have come via a very high end dealer. Assuming they are genuine ! I have no reason not to think they are anything but. But without knowing where they came from the possibility exists that they are ...... suspicious. High end fakes can be of exceptional quality. These two look like they 'might' be worth very very much on the open market. If you don't like slabbing (I don't) I believe David Sear is offering non slabbed certification and grading for a reasonable sum. A hundred spent would/could be a good thing.

Or there is always another alternate explanation. Stranger things have happened ......
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The coins were purchased years ago from omni precious metals. Other family members inherited other roman coins and they were all real so I am assuming these are real too. If these are real I am trying to get an idea of what they would be worth.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both of these coins fetch a $1000 dollars or better. The KYME, Aeolis tetradrachm is a sought after coin it is not uncommon to see these in great condition sell for $2000-$2500. This generally depends on the venue.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tlk1508 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!
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