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Morgan 1885 P VAM 4A?

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 Posted 12/25/2013  7:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
First of all I wish a Merry Christmas to all vammers..

Now just need some help with this nice VAM 1885 p Morgan dollar.
I just took a look on the related vamworld link and I think this could be a VAM 4A Super CD Elite Clashed Morgan dollars.

Do you think it's correct? And what do you think about possible grade of this coin?

Thanks
Vincenzo

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 Posted 12/25/2013  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you are correct. Congrats & Merry Christmas.
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 Posted 12/25/2013  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a nice looking coin with some serious clashing. I bet Twohawks could find the E on that one!

I agree it is the VAM 4A. Clashing is so cool when it is that strong all over the place.

I am not a professional grader but I would say MS63. It is too hard to tell how many defects are in the fields and on the devices with your lighting. Go to a local coin show and look over other 1885 Morgans and see what MS grades PCGS & ANACS coins look like. After looking at a bunch you will get a better feel for grading your own coins.

Kris
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 Posted 12/25/2013  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at the frosting on that cake.
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 Posted 12/26/2013  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I bet Twohawks could find the E on that one!


It was so hard to find but maybe I've got it. What you think? Is it the clashed E?

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Go to a local coin show and look over other 1885 Morgans and see what MS grades PCGS & ANACS coins look like. After looking at a bunch you will get a better feel for grading your own coins.


I live in Italy and I can't go to any local coin show...that's why I always ask your opinion.

What could be the value of this 1885 p VAM 4a? I saw on ha past auction and I found two coins 1 ms62 anacs 86,25$ (2009) and au55 anacs 42$ (2008).

Thanks
Vincenzo
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 Posted 12/26/2013  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No I don't see the clashed E unfortunately.

For grading you can become a member of PCGS coinfacts and study the images of graded Morgans and other coins. Their pictures are top notch but you have to pay like $10 a month or something to be a member.

To find a clashed E on this VAM 4A would be a miracle because so many others have looked at this VAM and have never found an E. I just said something because Twohawks has a tendancy to see E's on these types of strong clashed coins. Here is a very faintly clashed E but it is from a totally different year. http://www.vamworld.com/1889-O+VAM-20A
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 Posted 12/26/2013  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't realize that you were joking about the clashing E and I'm just a newbie in vams to know that it's impossible to find a clashed E on a 1885 p VAM 4a.

I have some morgans graded by ngc and pcgs in ms65/64/63 and 62 to compare but I find this forum so helpful and I will continue to ask your opinion.

What about the value and rarity of this coin? Is it easy to find a 1885 p VAM 4a?
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 Posted 12/26/2013  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He was just stating the fact I see "E's" on most Clashed Morgans
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 Posted 12/26/2013  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lux73,
I am sorry if I sounded rude, it is possible your coin could have an E but it would be very faint and probably does not, I am sorry if I confused you. The link to the 1889-O VAM 20A is one that can be hard to spot and shows what to look for in a faint clashed E.

I stand behind MS63 but it could be better. It is a nice looking coin. The VAM 4A is not hard to find. I usually look on ebay and compare with the others for sale to find a value. I don't see any PCGS graded MS63 in completed that have sold but from the others that have sold I would guess it is in the $100 - $125 range but it could only sell for $80-$90 on auction. VAMs are kind of hard to put a value on but you have a good variety that has a following.

Merry Christmas to you from Iowa, I forgot about that in my first post.

Kris
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I've been away for along time, but twohalks see's EEEE's in every waking hour and a great guy too!!....Happy holidays to you my friends.... The neck clash is so deep!! a great coin. Gene
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Hi Gene, It's been awile... I hope all is well
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 Posted 12/27/2013  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am sorry if I sounded rude, it is possible your coin could have an E but it would be very faint and probably does not, I am sorry if I confused you.


You didn't sound rude but I only misunderstood and then I tried to find an E...
sometimes you can see with your mind things that your eyes can't see! That's maybe why I found an E.

Thanks
Vincenzo
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