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Need Help To ID Roman Copper Coins I Found At Relic Site

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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldmember333 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is there a way to post images larger than 100k on here? I would like to share my stuff,

but I'm really haumstrung trying to show you pics with that MB count... thanks!

I got some new ones here...cleaned...can see a LOT more now! :)

Only difference I see are the legs are a bit different? also this might help narrow it down as well since they are clearer, this is the first I have seen of them up close in pics after being cleaned...

http://metaldetectingforum.com/show...#post1900276
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Ben I looked but couldn't find the exact coin to verify the constantius II coin with the backwards legs? There is a very distinct hand like object on the right shoulder of the figure holding the spear that I have not found a match for, there are many similar but not exact. I suppose there is a chance I wont find the EXACT match but I am hoping you will check the new clearer pictures and maybe get a better ID of that one?

I think the Julian II is solid match from what I can see though. If you click the link above you can see larger/clearer pictures of the slightly cleaned coins, I will try to clean even better along the edges where if there is writing as you suggested we might see it.

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Ancient coins are hand cut by many different hands - the examples you'll find online might be limited to a single coin in many cases but there were many many die cutters at each mint. Some hand their own motifs and variations - legs facing the other way, various fibuli and things. You'd be lucky to find an exact match (my main collecting aim in romans is to find a die match of a certain coin).

If oyu look at a lot of examples from a certain mint, or issue depending on how that mint ran, you'll be able to spot a diecutter's work or be able to tell the issuing mint from a coin which is missing its legend. I can do that for Heraclean campgates (most of them, you do find some weird ones).

EDIT: You'll need to upload images to an external site and use the IMG tags to put them here.

From the pictures I could see, it looks like you've removed the patina - Id get started trying to retone those - theres various methods to do that, the best being to leave them on a windowsil and turn them occasionally (every few weeks). It wont return the patina or remove the pitting, but the bright copper colour will dull.
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Congratulations on your fun find! I wonder why they were discarded; tend to agree with Pish on the reason. Perhaps they were purposefully planted to provide some future digger with a little excitement.

I don't see why those photos can't be made less than 100k. There's no need to have higher than ~72 pixels per inch for display on a computer screen and these tiny photos (consisting mostly of background) and pre-existing blurriness should not be adversely affected by dropping the resolution.

If you don't have a capable photo editor such as Photoshop Elements, try using this forum's photo optimizer. You should be able to make a *very* large photo (dimension-wise) while still maintaining adequate resolution. Did you click on the link provided when you got the CCF error message saying that photos must be less than 100 kb?

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/....asp#600,600

Here is an example of a much larger picture that is still less than 100kb:

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Its really not as far fetched as it may seem from surface to find these at this site in LA.

This relic site once had a mansion on it that was razed, many years ago, and there were many prospectors/miners/treasure hunters visited this house to look for Gold in the local MTS.

One of them could have lost them, not to mention Catholic Nuns stayed at this site for a period of time as well too.. also the owner was a Mason, and a Billionaire Tycoon so who knows?

Most likely they were in the house somewhere when it was demolished (in a wall?) and ended up in this trash area on the site, when they dozed it. There is a lot of other debris in this particular area.

but if someone did plant them there, Mission Accomplished! It made my day even if they are $5 coins..


Thanks for help on pics, I figured it out....

Ben/others....

1. let me know if you have a better ID now that they are clearer if I need to change anything

2. what does the lettering say if you can read it on edges?

thanks for all the help/interest everyone!
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Does the below still apply Ben?

thanks....

"The top one reads DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG and was produced between 337-361, this one being in later style so towards the end of the reign.

The bottom one reads FL CL IVLIANVS P F AVG or DN CL IVLIANVS NOB CAES (or something to that effect, variations exist for both) and was between 361-363"



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