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Unknown Item - Arabic Seal?

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 Posted 01/10/2014  08:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Guys,

I recently purchased this item and have no idea what it is! I think it might be a seal or some sort but its very strange. The piece is made out of lead from what I can tell - its very dense.

The writing looks to be Arabic or perhaps Farsi/Persian?

Unknown-Item---Arabic-Seal?

Unknown-Item---Arabic-Seal?

If anyone can help that would be great!
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 Posted 01/10/2014  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm... If both sides are detailed, it's probably not a seal (not an expert though). On a hunch, it does look Farsi. Maybe it's a lead die-trial piece? The Canadian Currency Museum has a few lumpy, dumpy white-metal objects that were used in this way.
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 Posted 01/10/2014  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes a seal defiantly wouldn't have both sides with detail a could be a trial piece! Making a trial out of lead is a good idea.
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 Posted 01/10/2014  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Um, yes, a seal certainly would have details on both sides. Seals were made in much the same way as coins, by the piece of metal squeezed between two dies. This is certainly a seal.

And I'd agree the script does look Iranian/Persian in style, or perhaps Mughal India.
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 Posted 01/10/2014  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like we can see the imprint of the string the seal was attached to.
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 Posted 01/10/2014  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh excellent thanks Sap, it does look to resemble the Mughal India style, it might be a bit tough tracking this item down precisely.
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 Posted 01/10/2014  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its persian language
first face : iran,s central bank
second face : mint
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 Posted 01/10/2014  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't a seal used to imprint on wax? I thought you only needed one side for that.
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 Posted 01/10/2014  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A seal can be made with any soft matrix. They can be uniface, but important formal seals usually have two sides (a document will have the seal dangling from a pendant). Both sides of the Greal Seal of the United States are depicted on the back of the one dollar bill.
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 Posted 01/12/2014  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info mass! Is there more specific information than mint? Or could this be related to the central bank mint? ALso wondering if anyone had a guess at the age of the item since the central bank was established in 1960?
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Perhaps it was used to seal a bag of coins leaving the mint?
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 Posted 01/15/2014  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
trials are made of lead, so the dies are not damaged
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