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The Canadian Wildlife Series In Retrospect

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 Posted 02/05/2014  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Further to the wildlife series, it seems the aftermarket responded to milk spots by painting the coins.


This also possible.
But looks like in Europe people like the colorization.

I would prefer, that "aftermarket" will develop some (chemical?) process, that will prevent milk spots or any kind of oxidization effect.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This series all but killed my interest is everything but reverse proof maples from the mint, and even then I don't think the price is justified.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, here it comes...

The info was on the other forum, but this was expected:

another "Wildlife" series - Birds Of Prey Series, and "The Falcon" is the first:

http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/pro...-series.aspx

for mintage will be like bullion issue...

now I just curious - the collectors, that didn't want to buy "2014 SML Replica" for $80, did they buy the "2014 Falcon Replica" for $90?

Yes, this time RCM was smart by selling the numismatic coin first, prior the time that bullion will be flood the market.
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02/06/2014 10:02 am
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 Posted 02/06/2014  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shouldn't those new replicas also have milkspots?
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 Posted 02/06/2014  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Shouldn't those new replicas also have milkspots?


I know ! I ahd a wolf that was crystal clear and I had to paint on the milkspots myself, so that it would match my Grizzly, Cougar, Moose and the rest
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 Posted 02/06/2014  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thehulk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The link that Silveroid provided to Gainsville Coins states that the new Falcon bullion won't ship until Feb 28, but I notice that Silver Gold Bull already has them available to order.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gainsville coins is just being honest about the shipping time. SilverGoldBull will just take your money and then deliver your coin when it comes in. Or tell you delivery is in three weeks, at check out. They most certainly do not have them in stock.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solidifier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^^^^ yup if you try and buy it, you have to click a box saying your order wont ship until up to 5 days after the 27th.....I would still rather order from SGB then gainsville tho
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 Posted 02/07/2014  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember, these are going to milk spot too, every one of them. Buy to flip, you can get better bullion that will hold its resale value.
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 Posted 02/07/2014  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice thread here!

I been meaning to write a thread about this with my thoughts but this is a good place to do it, as I wanted to up my Somalian elephant thread.


I am NOT a big time slab guy. I did however buy three slabbed bullion coins. A MS 70 2014 Somalia elephant, Gem Brilliant Uncirculated F15 Rwanda Zebra (forgot the year now) and a 2013 25 anniversary MS-69 silver maple.

Why did I order these? For starters I wanted to know what the big fuss was over graded bullion coins. You now what, I don't understand what the big deal is. I could have gotten the exact same coins with no grading.

Furthermore, all these coins, came with this milk spot effect and its gotten worse since I have had the coins. On several it was ever so so so slight. As one fellow collector noted in my Somalia elephant coin thread, this will happen to them no matter what. The Rwanda Zebra also has it. ITs sooooo slight but its there.

So what is the take away?

Bullion coins are just that... bullion by nature of how they are made. Mind you, they are still beautiful. Because of that, they still and will carry some sort of premium in the market, even with the blemishes.

Furthermore, the grading of bullion coins just seems to be an end game for dealers to increase profits. The ONLY advantage I see to graded bullion coins is that they offer absolute proof that they are real and not fakes. For that, the grading agencies should offer some sort of different tier and just drop the grading of the bullion coins.

I feel grading is great however for say certain proof coins. It does have its place. But buying bullion graded coins and hoping that things will turn out well just is never going to happen because its a production issue that is commonly accepted and standard for bullion coins, hence the stance of RCM.
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 Posted 02/07/2014  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
About the only bullion coin I would want to have graded is the 1996 ASE. What other reason is there to slab your bullion, gimme a break..

As to painting coins: way to destroy their value! Not mint state, not even mint-close! It's a nice novelty...if you're seven! I could very well just cast some lead, plate it with silver, and then paint over it so that nobody would ever know it's a lead dud. Put it in a capsule and voila.
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 Posted 02/07/2014  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I could very well just cast some lead, plate it with silver, and then paint over it so that nobody would ever know it's a lead dud. Put it in a capsule and voila.


Oh........I think someone would know
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 Posted 02/07/2014  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solidifier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what's with all the talk about milk spots....every single pure silver coin will and can produce milk spots period. If you keep a coin in a nice air-tite away from the elements ....don't touch it....don't breath on it....the chances of it forming milk spots are slim......even RCM coins will produce milk spots, they rarely do because hey are never touched or breathed on and put strait into an air-tite....im sure some will form milk spots in the future......for me milk spots is the way of life with bullion......there is so much counterfeiting going on out there that I weigh and measure each bullion coin I get to make sure its legit and if it has a couple milk spots on it then its a good indication its legit. I bet in almost everyone's collection of bullion if its big enough and from lots of different places like ebay or random stores there is probably a fake coin in it. I have gotten fakes before and I'm sure I will still get them. So you should welcome the milk spots, they are your friends of legitimacy. end rant
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 Posted 02/07/2014  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Solidifier

I like your rant and I agree with your points. I dont mind them, I still like my Somalia elephants, especially, even with them.

no problem at all with milk spots, and has been said, at least you know they are the REAL McCoy!
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Is the price for the falcon correct on Gainesville coins? It says ~25 bucks. I realize it's US funds, but how can it possibly be so cheap? Has anyone here ever bought from them? Seems too good to be true.
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