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Rest in Peace
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Denco, thank you for the information.
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Canada
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That was an interesting read, now only time will tell.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So what would you guys do if you found it? Would you keep it or sell it?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I would have done this completely different. I would have kept quiet about it and sent maybe 3 to 5 coins at a time to be graded and conserved if need be. I'm not sure if I would sell any or all, though. That's a tough call without actually being in the situation.
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 ........... but numismatics is a small world, all of a sudden 3-5 of the best known examples of "fresh from the mint" double eagles show up on the market every year ? People would start demanding to know where they came from. As far as due diligence goes, they probably gave a $50,000 coin to a law firm and said " Here, make sure we cross all our T's and dot all our I's on this" legally, before they even went public. This doesn't fall into the "find a wallet on the street and keep all the money" catagory. This is more like finding treasure in that abandoned/foreclosed storage bin you bought at auction. One you have to report, the other you keep what you find.
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United States
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The more I think about this, perhaps there were more coins and they "just" reported this many. Who's to say.
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United States
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Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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United States
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Quote: 2080.7. The provisions of this article have no application to things which have been intentionally abandoned by their owner. Journalists are always looking for some "angle". In my opinion the whole premise of the "they could face arrest" part of this article is ridiculous. You do not "lose" something by deliberately burying it in the ground. Clearly these coins were intentionally abandoned, and are not lost property. Half the article is a waste of time. I also hate it when articles try to make a case and then get the facts wrong. "500 coins were stolen by Dimmick - only 73 coins less than the 1,427 discovered at Saddle Ridge" - 1373 Saddle Ridge coins were double eagles, and Dimmick stole 1500 not 500, so the difference is 127 coins. Did Dimmick really spend $2540 in stolen loot (a huge amount in 1901) while under intense scrutiny from an army of agents, and not have it show up in court as evidence? I'm still not buying the Dimmick theory. Of course people are going to be crawling out of the woodwork claiming it was great-grandpa Billy Joe Bob, so we'll be reading about this for years I think.
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United States
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I'd sure like to own one coin from this amazing discovery. I bet it will be a while before these coins ever make it to the market though with all the potential legal issues.
-MV
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United States
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For those coins to be in such excellent condition they had to have been spirited out of the mint, one or two at a time, over many, many years. I suspect it was a long time trusted employee who had unfettered access who was just padding his retirement. Most likely he died shortly after the last coins (1894?) were canned. He started this in the mid-1850's and kept it up over 40 years. It is not unreasonable that he could have done this without raising a flag. A couple of coins a week for 40 years would be just about right for the quantity recovered.
If he had been going to a local banking house and buying gold coins every week during that period his mix would have been more diverse and the conditions would have been even more broad.
A little bit of research into former long time mint employees who lived in that area, or owned property in that area, might eventually unravel this mystery.
If they can be traced back to a former mint employee then this could get real interesting.
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United States
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It will be interesting to see the list of date and condition. On average it's 30 double eagles per year. I agree with @westernsky as a top theory, but I'm also starting to agree with Kagin etc who say their best guess is someone in the mining industry. During this time period, could someone go directly to the mint with their raw gold and exchange it for coin? Just curious, because that was said in one of the video interviews. We're talking about roughly 88 pounds / 1400 ounces of gold, right? The only problem I have with the rogue employee theory is that they would have to have direct access to coins for over 40 years. I'm less inclined to believe the "collector who buries his collection" theory, just on the grounds that it seems like a collection would be more diverse. Why mostly only a single denomination and such a large number of each?
Well, clearly I'm obsessed with this and I have nothing better to do. Guess I should vacuum the living room instead.
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I'm with dave700x. But, I'd slowly sell them one by one.
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United States
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I would keep the best ones, and sell the duplicates to pay for the cost of grading all of them
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United States
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Jeez. I'm getting myself a nice metal detector. And moving out west.
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