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I was just about to pop this in my culls pile, I put this along with another bunch in the oven for 15 mins to dry them off, before putting them in a long bath in olive. When I got this one out, there were clear cracks in the crust, and clearly bright silver peeking through. the crust is thick, I have tried getting it off but it wont budge. This is a tiny coin, did they even make silvers this small?(second pic shows how small it is) Hows best to get rid of real crust on a silver, or possible silver? I am hoping warming it up in oven wouldn't damage a silver?  
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The Greeks struck tiny silver coins, they were fairly thick though. It's hard to say what this one might be. It has a thick crust that isn't going to be easy to remove. Your going to have to be very careful trying to pick off the crust. A way to clean silver is the soak the coin in diluted lemon juice, but you have to really watch it and don't leave it in too long.
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Pillar of the Community
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It couldbe silvered. Reminds me of Barbrous minims, but they werent silvered. I'm guessing some sort of fourree or jewellery piece from the period.
If you take a pin, wear through the crust on the edge nd make a tiny test cut to see if its silvered or more substantial. If its got a good thick layer on, go with Echizento's suggestion and leave it in lemon juice (give it a good vigorous scrub too). Distilled Vinegar (Glacial) works well too, but keep an eye on it and regulrly scrub it.
Another thing you could try is saturating it in DW and freezing it. Might be enough to break off the dirt.
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Thanks guys
Ben, with the freezing it, once it has frozen, do I break the ice? see if the dirt breaks off with it? or let it defrost and see if it flakes off?
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Pillar of the Community
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3 options - let it thaw, see if the ice was enough to break it up - throw it in boiling water and see if the thermal shock breaks the dirt (this could break off silver plating of a fourree though) or try and yank off the ice, which could also pull of silver plating.
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There was a method I read about years ago when I first started to collect ancient coins. I experimented on a very low grade coin so if there was any damage it wouldn't matter much. It's along the same lines as freezing the coin, you would heat the coin in a over for several minutes take it out an drop it into ice cold water. The shock was supposed to cause the encrustations to drop off. What happened instead was that the coin shatter into several pieces. I never did that again. So I don't recommend either heating or freezing the coin. I would stick to more non destructive methods.
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I tried the quick routes... and the coin still looks exactly the same. Will give it a go with the lemon juice... looks like it will be quite a while before I unravel this mystery :)
Thanks guys
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Pillar of the Community
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i don't think you going to get much out of that one, no mater what you do. of course, the flip side is I don't think you can really hurt it at this point.
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Maybe this coins is going to be a good training course in 'picking' I so far have not picked at all at my coins, just brushed.
Would it be suicidal to use a pin and see if I can do it that way? if I am really careful? Just wonder if a pin may be my only chance. Is it better to pick on a dry coin or a wet coin?
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In this case a pin isn't going to hurt this piece, give it a try.
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Pillar of the Community
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mashisback, I use a pin ususally....give it a practice go. for loose(ish) dirt, I like to hit it when it is "damp"...transitioning from wet to dry. seems to work well...i don't know why.
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Pillar of the Community
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Here is a coin that I bought from a metal detector in the UK. Uncleaned  Cleaned 
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Pillar of the Community
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sorry jess IMHO your coin looked better before it was "cleaned", from the photo it looks as though there is no patina left. Mash - Please take your time, this would be a classic case to test your patience. Just chuck it in some DW for a while and see what happens. I don't know, we all sit around talking about how patience is required, it can take months of soaking etc. At the first glint of silver it's, where is the lemon juice, stick it in the freezer just waiting for "hit it with a dirty great big hammer..." 
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Pillar of the Community
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Mash - one other point, you don't have any culls until they have been soaked, sometimes the most unlikely looking coin will reveal a gem.....
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Yes, taking your time is the best way to do it. The postumus is a silver coin and silver tones and it was a dark color but shines like a silver coin now. I tried a few cleaning methods back then and had some fun but ruined a few coins too...this coin actually turned out pretty nice. Most coins will clean up good after lots of time and multiple cleanings. :)
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Sorry Jess, I didn't mean to be rude about your coin, from the pics it looks like a bronze taken back to the metal! Taking pics of silver coins can be so difficult.
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