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A Bunch Of Fake Indian Head Cents

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 Posted 03/22/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just did on all his coins see what happens .
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 Posted 03/22/2014  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I reported all coins listed as well as the 2 key Morgans that are completed auctions
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 Posted 03/22/2014  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh man, I just looked a the Carson City 1885 Morgan that OldSkoolMadSkillz mentioned 0-0. There high prices that they sold for :(, is it me or does the cc even look large on it. RedRaider great spot, hopefully these will be pulled down. You've saved some people having a very bad day in the future. He even sites the PCGS registry number for them...this guys experienced :(.
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03/22/2014 7:57 pm
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 Posted 03/22/2014  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm convinced that all his coin listings are fakes; this, with the possible exception of the gold piece. I reported all but that one. Sometimes the scammers mix in some genuine coin or coins to seemingly legitimize their offering. He's either a scammer or someone who knows nothing about coins and took those items on consignment from a scammer.
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 Posted 03/22/2014  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exoguy I think he knows his stuff, using the registry codes to cite information from a reputable site. And why does he have other peoples coins in his collections?
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 Posted 03/22/2014  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Exoguy I think he knows his stuff


He knows jack squat CCF IS POWER .
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 Posted 03/22/2014  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
He knows jack squat CCF IS POWER .


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 Posted 03/22/2014  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
awallin01 .... You're likely correct, but I always try to give folks the benefit of the doubt.

In my travels to shows, auctions and the like, I see many reputable dealers. Many have been fooled by fakes over the years. Stuff happens ... I've been fooled three times by gold pieces; two of which I bought from a local dealer who took them back when, after close study, I found them to be fakes. My first, blunder happened at a country auction. It was genuine gold though.

There's a lot of collective knowledge, here at the CCF ... knowledge is power.
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 Posted 03/22/2014  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@fixguy and yingyang No no no, I don't mean he knows they are real. I mean he knows exactly what he's doing lol. Lost in translation, as in he is selling fakes and knows they're fakes. Not that he knows what he's doing, and is selling real coins lol. I wouldn't of bothered mentioning all the discrepancies with that $1800 coin if I thought he was legit.

@Exoguy I agree with giving people the benefit of the doubt, but it's scary for someone not to check high caliber coinage out :(.
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03/22/2014 10:42 pm
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 Posted 03/22/2014  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd also say that anybody selling groups of fakes has their source--where profit is the motive of both parties.
I hope this doesn't get to the point where the casual collector is awash in fakes--we may already be getting there.
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 Posted 03/23/2014  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's scary for someone not to check high caliber coinage out :(.

Can't argue with that statement. I've attended many an auction and been scared many a time! At one gun/coin auction alone, the auctioneer sold many thousands of dollars in Chinese Counterfeits. I told him that they were fakes at a preview, the day before the auction. I told him to simply consult the weights in the Red Book and weigh the "coins." From what I could discern, they were underweight, and that would be the simplest means for him to gauge my credibility. One of the buyers, I later learned, was related to a friend of mine. He spent over $3,000 on them. I offered to go to court with him, but he never called me. I believe that he was too embarrassed and/or didn't want his wife to know!

I can't begin to recall all the fake coin stories, I've heard. One of the more ridiculous ones was a guy who spent over $200 on a 1944-D cent that had most of the first 4 scratched off to simulate a 1 and transform it to a '14-D. It was so obvious, crude scratches and all. He got angry with a dealer who declined to buy it, throwing a fit in the shop! I was very impressed with the dealer who sympathetically kept his cool that day.

IMHO, there's a very large percentage of collectors who make impulsive buys and fail to do their homework. Sadly, to me, this remains true today, even when we have so many resources like books, the internet, clubs ....
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 Posted 03/23/2014  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a lot of his auctions are private. I'm pretty sure he knows what he is doing. ill bet almost all them positive private item feedbacks he has is a scam of some kind, only the lesser items he sells and large bullion auctions aren't private as far as I could see other than those morgans.
I cant find the 1895 o Barber dime people have discussed. has it already been removed I take it? does anyone have a copy of the image or anything? I'd like to take a look at it. I wonder if they used the correct reverse or used a type 2.
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It looks like everything has been removed except the $5 gold. My apologies that I did not include the image of the dime when I first mentioned it. I will try to remember next time......
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 Posted 03/23/2014  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's all good, no apologies needed my friend. I'm just happy that they've all been taken care of other than the gold $5.
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 Posted 03/23/2014  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job guys my coffee taste better this morning .
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