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Germany
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Good Evening,
first of all, my english is not perfect since english is not my native language. so, be indulge with me :)
i am a collector from europe and I have a kick on the indian Head Gold coins. I do own some. in my opinion, these coins belong to the most nicest coins ever..here is my question:
How can I recognize a 1909 D couterfeit from a regular coin?(i have heard, especially many counterfeits of 1909 D are on the market - is that true?) I have a 1909 D piece and a 1910 (philadelphia -no mint mark) piece..they are both identically in weight and size, except the fact, that the alloy of the 1909 D piece is slightly more red..
thanks in advance...
PS: does someone have a good scan of a counterfeit ?
Edited by Metal_Money
03/21/2014 3:53 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Why do you want to know about a counterfeit 1909-D gold? Have you used google or another search engine to source images of fake ones? I think that is your best start. Again, though, what is creating the need to answer this question? have you located a coin and want to know if it is fake? take a picture of it and post it here for us to see. |
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New Member
 Germany
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thanks for your answer..i am just a bit insecure due some rumors here in europe because 5 $ fakes on the market. but maybe its just a misunderstanding by me. can be its just all about manipulating the mintmark by changing a "D" into a "O". anyway, I will put some scan soon..:-)thanks for your help.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Here is the real 1909D coin use to match with yours.  |
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New Member
Germany
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yep..looks exactly the same..does someone know something about $5 fakes in generally ? I mean, not just
by manipulating the mintmark. are there completely faked coins on the market?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There are a lot of common date 2 1/2 & 5$ Indians that are counterfeit. The quality of the counterfeits are very good and the gold content is usually spot on. The biggest part of them came out of the Middle East in the 1960's and 1970's. Your best bet to protect yourself is continued educating yourself and coming to the forums like this. It is easier for people to help you if you post high quality pictures of questionable coins. Until you become proficient with you authentication skills buy only coins that are 3rd party graded by PCGS, NGC or ANACS.
Good luck!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is mine as well for comparison  |
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New Member
Germany
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i did some scans with my cell-phone, not the best quality but good enough for a first impression, I guess. the left one is the 1909-D, the right one is the 1910 philadelphia. the mintmark on the 1909-D is really weak and almost invisible, I will do better scans with my camara soon. on my scale ( +/- 0,005 grams accuracy) the 1909-D is 8.335 grams and the 1910 is 8,360 grams. the haptically impression is fine with both coins. as you can see, the alloy of the 1909-D appears slightly more red. I guess this is normal due to specific production process, so far I know. What do you think? fakes or authentic coins?   Edited by Metal_Money
03/22/2014 08:23 am
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United States
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Those two look completely legitimate to me.
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