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1819/8 Half Dollar With Dot In 8?

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 Posted 03/28/2014  1:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add austinb_10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
When looking at the date on this coin, I noticed a strange dot in the top half of the 8. I was hoping someone help me out and tell me what it is and whether or not it adds any value to the coin! Thanks a lot guys!

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 Posted 03/28/2014  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be a die chip

If it is a die chip, I don't think that adds any value, but I could be mistaken.


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 Posted 03/28/2014  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austinb_10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I was thinking too, I am just checking with people more experienced than I am! Thanks!
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Looks like a die chip to me. Check to see if that is normal for the variety or if there is another variety that takes the die chip into account.
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Do you know of any websites that would have the varieties listed?
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http://rob.com/russ/collection/

Here is something that may be useful. Check out O-106. I think I see a die chip in the upper loop of the first 8.
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I think you are right about O-106,its hard to tell, but I think that's the only one I saw with that die chip.it said that it was a very scarce variety, would that add any extra value to the coin? Or do varieties of this coin not really change the price too much?
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Yes varieties can add value to a coin, depending on the rarity. I have a coin that is questionable in its variety. If it is one variety, it is worth $50, but if it's the other rarer variety, then it is worth at least $1500. So, yes, varieties do have an impact on a coin's volume.
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The 'die chip' (if that is what it is, would not add value.

The Overton # (by die marriage) establishes value by rarity.

That said, if it was a LDS (late die state) it could effect the value.

But, this would not.

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The presence or absence of a die chip in the writeup for a given Overton doesn't necessarily prove or disprove its' existence. If you can, please post full-face images of the coin for attribution purposes. O-106 has a die defect over the second 1 and doubling in the 8 which yours does not show; I don't think it's O-106.
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Thanks for all this information guys! I'm not too familiar with varieties, so any help is appreciated. And ill work on getting some full-face photos up for attribution!
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Here are the full-faced pictures!

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Found it! It is an O-105. R-2

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Thanks for all the help! Is it true that the O-105 isn't really an overdate, but is instead just a die crack in the 9? Just curious!
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In your honest opinion, would it be worth sending this coin in to be graded and slabbed? The place I got it from had it graded at VG-10. I know its not nearly as rare or valuable as a lot of coins, but It probably still has some value!
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Ive also noticed that this coin has slightly rotated dies. I tried to measure it, and I may not be 100% accurate, but it is rotated about 30°. I know its nothing major like 90 or 180° but to my knowledge it is above mint tolerance. Is this series known for having rotated dies like this, or us it something more on the scarcer side?
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