Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Oooops, Think I Just Way Over Paid For Group Of Greek Uncle'

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 1,178Next Topic  
Valued Member

United Kingdom
287 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2014  5:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just spent a little bit more than I should have done on these greek uncleaned.

Have I got a chance of getting my moneys worth? just spent £2 a piece, got a little carried away :S
Assuming this is a lot to pay considering I normally get Romans for 50p!

Does anyone recognise the few that have detail showing?

Thanks



Oooops,-Think-I-Just-Way-Over-Paid-For-Group-Of-Greek-Uncle'
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2014  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a ptolemaic Eagle. Greeks do cost £2 each - I've only ever had 10 uncleaned and thats how much they costed me. Mine actually cleaned up surprisingly well - you might have some good stuff under that.
Valued Member
United Kingdom
287 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2014  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ben, I will let you know how they turn out.

I have 4 coins with BD at the moment, which I have tried experimenting to get rid of it, tried mainly lemon juice and Olive oil. Couple of these are greek, nice horse sticking out, but I cant seem to rescue them, the amount of green goo that comes out of these coins whilst soaking is substancial, but I think its staining them more, unsure if it is actually 'reacting' and causing the green goo rather than fixing it.
Any Ideas whats best to do?

Thanks
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2014  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, I most certainly do. First off, quarantine and clean out the vessels they were in or get new ones.

Second, put away the lemon juice, that will only speed it up - bronze disease is, at its heart, an acidic process, caused by Hydrochloric acid formed by Chloride ions on the coin's surface reacting with water (its a bit more complex than that, but this explanation is sufficient to undertsnad whats happening).

Third, remove all the green. Dont hesitate to remove patina, just go at it. Dig down to bare metal. There can be no hint of it left. and make sure the patina isn't undermined - if it is, just keep going until theres no green left.

Fourth, begin distilled water treatments. This ebbs out the chloride ions which propagate and cause BD. Its slow and more green will develop even during treatment - remove it all. I soak the coins for a few days, then remove green, replace the water, rinse everything and repeat. It can take a long time to fix the problem.

Once theres no sign of anything green for a couple of weeks, move the coin to its own distilled water bath and continue the treatment for 2 more weeks, just to be thorough. After that, bake it in the oven to remove moisture and seal in wax - if moisture cant reach the coin, then the few remainig chloride ions wont be able to continue.

It will take patience to fix it, but these things have weathered 2000 years already and theres no reason they cant survive the next 2000.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2014  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to say right now if you overpaid. We are going to have to wait and see once the coins are cleaned.
Valued Member
United Kingdom
287 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2014  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks VM, I will get to work on them, I should have asked first as I think I have made the problem quite a bit worse.

fingers crossed.
One thing I find amazing, Is how many roman coins survived 2000 years, yet, I see a lot of Victorian dug coins that look nothing but a flat piece of metal.
Pillar of the Community
chrsmat71's Avatar
United States
4981 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2014  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cleaned coins are always a gamble, it's hard to tell how much of that stuff will come off. I would guess no much, it looks pretty solid. if thins are improving with regular cleaning, that may be a good lot for long term olive oil treatment
  Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 1,178Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.28 seconds to rattle this change. Forums