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Here We Go. 1865 3 Cent Nickel. Pattern, Essai, Or Nothing

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For those of you who forgot the coin weighs 2.1 grams. Pics are in last post. I can do a measurement for those that want. It doesn't look larger than usual. Now some things I noticed that may make a difference is weight (obviously), the hair has a space almost as if she has bangs, there is a significant amount of test piece like writing in hair and on face, the reverse does have writing whether it be numbers or letters of assorted sizes. The only pattern for this year is of copper that I found. Any andall commentary is welcome. Another thing is iI don't care if you share any of the picks I will be posting with my new found camera skills (kidding lol! Just a fancy camera)

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Yours is an ordinary business strike.

Compare the ribbon on the reverse of yours to this image of the pattern coin http://uspatterns.com/j410p481.html

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Notice how the ribbon touches the rim on the pattern coin whereas it doesn't on yours.

-MV
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As far as differences go, it mainly is seen on the obverse. I have several 3 cent nickels b/c I consider it a great series and the highest weight I have seen on a mint specimen is 1.94 if I'm lucky. The ribbon bow on my coin also displays a clear large 5 and what I can only assume a number 6 before it. There are also smaller examples of this present throughout. The obverse is what I suggest looking at as previously mentioned. However, I'm not trying to play an expert and appreciate your feedback. Thank you.
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there is a significant amount of test piece like writing in hair and on face, the reverse does have writing whether it be numbers or letters of assorted sizes.

can you please show close up clear pics of this? as you know extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/proof. I am open minded to taking a look at any you can provide however.
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LOL I have noticed this claim. Ok here is what I have. The reverse's design is identical. the 65 (or what I assume is a 65)on the bow you can actually see (faintly) on some examples. I understand that you are going to get some faint weird numbers letters from time to time on coins. It happens. I am going to focus on the obverse unless someone sees something on the reverse that catches their eye and wants a close up...which may take me a bit to get done but I will do my best. I chose this close up to start out with in black and white to have better contrast. To me, it shows the bangs of the hairline, also a clear 6 thrown in there, and on the very top of the hairline there is some lettering. I will try to amp up my close ups soon. To those that have looked at my previous pics it is a definite step in the right direction though :-) Now, it could be something common but there is also lettering along the cheek bone, on eye lids, above the eye. Again, with they weight and b/c it isn't the fanciest coin I am leaning on essai coin. But, it could be nothing and if I don't get a confirmation I'll move on the the next coin. Which I will do anyway.
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Weight is within tolerance (1.94 grams +/- .26 grams) I don't see anything on those photos to make me think it is anything other than a normal coin.
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Thank goodness this isn't baseball because I would be steeeeriked out lol! Ok, I will shut my mouth on this one. The hairline I will just assume is a poor strike. I just want to say that for those of you out there that have found a way to take a pic 1/100th of an inch or less in size with clarity...props to you. Right now I would put you up there with Pulitzer Prize winners. I can take a nice Panorama though! I will continue on and say a Hail Mary before my next post.
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Go to the photography section and learn how to take that pic.
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Thank you and yes I will figure this out. I am on a mission to make this work. Not to get too far off the topic but I found some cool info on trial pieces for recent modern US coinage early this morning. The report was dated Aug. 31,2012 explaining a new alternative metal study on our current coinage. I.e trial piece coins! Now, this report is something like 400 pgs long so I haven't gone through everything but I am going to attach a page that lists the metals involved. The description of the nonsense piece as they are called is very vague and from what I've read so far depicts a picture of Martha Washington on obverse, a "scene" on reverse, and letters that were scrambled. I just want a picture for my screen saver is all lol! Anyway, I love love love learning about stuff like this so thank you US Mint for keeping things always interesting and fun! Maybe someday sooner than later I can help contribute something to help them out.

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