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Smackdown XVI - Astronomical And/Or Astrological

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 Posted 04/07/2014  10:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
OK, I've never done one of these things before, but apparently it's my job since I won the last one. So let me know if I've forgotten anything important.

I've chosen as my theme "astronomical and/or astrological". You are free to interpret the theme any way you like, but if you post something obscure and not entirely obvious, you'll have to do your best to explain how your coin fits the theme.

The usual rules:

- Anyone can participate.
- All participants can post a maximum of two coins.
- Coins can be ancient or mediaeval. That means no post-AD-1450 coins.
- The contest is open for just over one week - up until midnight (forum time) on Monday 14th / Tuesday 15th.
- Voting will then commence, and close midnight Friday 18th / Sat 19th.
- Votes can be allocated Gold (3pts), Silver (2pts), Bronze (1pt).
- Voters are to be encouraged to consider not just the awesomeness of the coins themselves, but how well you think they fit the theme.

Some examples to get you thinking:

An obvious one:

Smackdown-XVI---Astronomical-And/Or-Astrological

A denarius of Hadrian, depicting the Moon and seven stars. This next one;s a bit more obscure...

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A dirham of the Seljuqs of Rum under Kaikhusro II, depicting a lion, sun and stars. The depiction is actually a horoscope: "the Sun in Leo".

Enjoy.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting theme but I don't believe that I have anything that I can post for this one.
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I have some minutes to spare, "off-the-top-of my head"...

Taurus:

AE1, Julian II, RIC VIII Thessalonica 224, Rated Scarce

"Julian was born in May in the sign of Taurus."

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Next one, Aquarius:

AE27, Gordian III, Edessa, Mesopotamia, BMC 128-130

The reverse depicts: "Turreted and veiled bust of Tyche, facing to the left, looking at a statue of Aquarius upon a pedestal."

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 Posted 04/07/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great idea for a smackdown!

this coin of elagablaus has a star atop mount argaeus on the reverse.

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and this coin of the bactrian king antialcidas features the caps of the dioscuri on the reverse, topped by stars. castor and pollux were transformed into the constellation gemini by zeus....pictured on the obverse.

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04/07/2014 7:24 pm
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 Posted 04/07/2014  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been a somewhat elusive member as of late, but don't think I wont come out swinging...

Kingdom of Elam
King Kamnaskires VI Late 1st cent BC to early 1st century AD
Billon Tetradrachm 16.10g x 29mm
obv: diademed bust of king right, tamgha and crescent star
rev: male bust left with garbled legend
ref: Seaby 5889

Some have thought that this might be one of those "three wise men" from the east the observed a celestial event and subsequently followed the event which lead them to the a manger in Israel sometime around 4 BC. Its a stretch. The coin is one of the best of the type have seen.

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A pleasing coin from the declining Seleucid Empire. This coin was minted under the reign of Antiochus VIII Epiphanes Grypos (the hooked nose). 121-96 BC. The coin features a photo realistic diademed portrait of the King surrounded by a fillet border. The reverse, of exceptional style IMHO, features what some call Zeus, or Zeus Ouranios. Which I believe to be the Titan Uranus, or titan/god of the sky. He features a crescent headdress and in his outstretched hand a star. (really phat).

Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC
Antioch, Syria
AR Tetradrachm 30.5 mm x 16.12 grams
struck. 121-113 BC
Obverse: Diademed bust of Antiochus VIII right.
Reverse: Uranus Standing left arm outstretched holding a star, and scepter crecent headdress IE/A left field, K right, N in Exergue.
BASILEWS / ANTIOXOY right EPIPhANOYZ left field. All with wreath.
ref:SNG Spaer 2498v, SMA 372
ex. David&Grace Barbobe 9/13
ex. DH Collection 11/13


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 Posted 04/07/2014  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some coins w stars on them. Nice coins already posted.
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CONSTANTINE II, Trier RIC VII 479
AE Follis, 326 AD. CONSTANTINVS
IVN NOB C, laureate, draped,
cuirassed bust left / PROVIDEN-TIAE
CAESS, campgate, 2 turrets, 6 layers,
star above, no doors. Mintmark STR
dot in crescent. RIC VII Trier 479

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Nicopolis ad Istrum Septimius
Severus A.D. 193-211 Æ 17. Rev.
ΝΙΚΟΠΟΛΙΤΩΝ ΠΡΟC Ι, Star and
crescent. 3gm V2472 var.


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 Posted 04/12/2014  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DannDaMan020 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here`s one of my coins from the "vault"

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Obv: Bust of Vijayasena w/ Saka date and corrupted Greek
Rev: Brahmi inscription w/ three-arched hill, sun, and moon.

Not too astrological but fits the bill.
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 Posted 04/17/2014  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll post mine up even though it doesn't really stand up to the other ones in this thread. I claim some bonus points for having cleaned it though! It does have a sun on the reverse.

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(A Miletos, Ionian coin that I cleaned, with a clear portrait on the front and a malformed lion on the back. Minted 2nd century BC.)

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 Posted 04/17/2014  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, um, I guess I dropped the ball here, but entries are now closed. A few days late, but we haven't had as many entries as previous. We'll keep voting open for a few extra days, until midnight Monday forum time.
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My votes:

Gold- Chrsmat - Square Bactria bronze Dioscuri caps

Silver- Dandaman- WS- Vijasena AR Karshapana. (Superb Date)

Bronze- Jessvc1 - Constantine II Campgate

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 Posted 04/17/2014  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya'll killing me let's see some more votes! We got one page fellas.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sap, it was a great idea for a smackdown, I'm surprised at the low turn out. I think there are more coins out there that would have been applicable, there were several I've seen here that I thought would show up. anyway, here's my votes..

bronze:chuy's ionian...point for self cleaning.
silver:DTM's vijahayasena
gold: AN's kingodom of elam..what a cool coin.

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 Posted 04/18/2014  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great idea Sap,i didn't have anything to post.
Great coin's everyone..

Gold..Chrismat..square Bactria.

Silver..Jess 1..Camogate..

Bronze..Dman..Visayasena..

Nice job folks..
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Gold-Ancientnoob-Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC
Antioch, Syria
AR Tetradrachm. I like the details on both sides.

Silver-Chuy1530 lion coin. I think this is a great looking coin.

Bronze-chrsmat71-square bactrian king antialcidas . Nice square coin.

all nice coins..
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 Posted 04/22/2014  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, time's up. Didn't get too many votes, but chrsmat71'a square coin has come out the winner.
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 Posted 04/23/2014  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, i'll congratulate myself...nice job chrsmat71.

good idea for a smackdown sap...there were tons of possible coin that could have been posted here..not sure why the tepid response.

I don't think there's really any point in doing another one, if folks are interested i'll do a next...if not, that's ok also.
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