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1804 Large Cent- Not Really

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 Posted 05/17/2014  9:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I messaged the seller to tell them that their coin is an 1802 cent with damage making the 2 look like a 4. However, I'm fairly sure it's an intentional alteration, probably old. Positioning of the date is all wrong. The seller emailed me back to tell me that I was wrong and that it is clearly an 1804. Sold for good money. I don't get it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/251527865398

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 Posted 05/17/2014  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really much to high for that specimen. I'm not particularly familiar with varieties but that may be the reason for the high-price (A Rare Variety). Or maybe just another case of "Somebody got carried away with bidding" although it's a pretty beat up piece and it's definitely not problem-free.
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 Posted 05/17/2014  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't even see a readable date in the auction photos
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 Posted 05/17/2014  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No varieties for 1804. There was only one die pair and they didn't make many. It usually brings $750 in low, but reasonably attractive grades.

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I can clearly see the "2" in the 1802 date in his picture. Why would he, or anyone else, think it's a "4"? Coin is worth about $9.
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Can't explain the bidders actions. I have a word to describe the seller's mindset but the word filter would remove it. With the position of the "4", the date would have to be 180 4 or 18 04. You really only see those odd spacings on cents from the late teens. 1804 is pretty evenly spaced.

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 Posted 05/28/2014  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the eBay-ccw reporting system not working? I reported this coin over a week ago and heard nothing. Listing is still there.

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@OldSkool...

if I am reading this post by Swamperbob correctly the coin community watchgroup has been disband.

https://goccf.com/t/178336&whichpage=1
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05/28/2014 2:14 pm
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That is one messed up old cent - why anyone in their right minds would bit that kind of $ is a mystery!
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