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1908 Dime Double Sided But Reversed! Full Mirror Brockage

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 Posted 08/28/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatchaser140 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great to hear a success story like this. That's a great looking coin!
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 Posted 08/28/2014  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Find out who is going to catalog it. Make sure it gets a full page in the listings. Stress the fact that one like it has never been sold by Heritage. I know a couple of the catalogers at Heritage I will definitely have them keep an eye out for this one.... maybe even get a "shout out" as "discovered" by the CCF!....and keep us informed!!
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 Posted 08/28/2014  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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IF this is real it NEEDS to be certified and in a TPG plastic. Here is an example of one that sold at Heritage for..... $11,500 .... http://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/unda.../1166-7618.s Not trying to get you excited.....but I am a bit (tentatively) excited for you!


Heritage needs to contact this guy and let him know. Bet he would go all out on this one.
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 Posted 08/28/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradybigd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Find out who is going to catalog it. Make sure it gets a full page in the listings. Stress the fact that one like it has never been sold by Heritage. I know a couple of the catalogers at Heritage I will definitely have them keep an eye out for this one.... maybe even get a "shout out" as "discovered" by the CCF!....and keep us informed!!

This is who I have been in contact with:
Bill Walker
Showroom Manager & Senior Numismatist
Heritage Auctions
3500 Maple Ave 17th Floor
Dallas, TX 75219-3941
Bill@HA.com
1-800-872-6467 Ext. 1238
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Super news! Congrats on a superb find. This should sell for at least $18-25K at a Heritage auction. Hope you do well, let us know which sale it will be in so we can all keep an eye on it, I just wish I had the kind of dough that will be required to bid on it.

Might go for a bit less than my estimate, I know Heritage will take 17.5% and then there is tax to be paid on your capital gain, but still you should clear $7K+ I'd expect Mike Beyer to be a bidder on this one, he might even have clients on his want list.
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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Great read and a great result!! Wishing the best price at auction for you!

Remind us when it comes up for auction! ( us older people have short memories)
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 Posted 08/29/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradybigd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello I looked into Stacks as well how do you feel about them? They offered free reserve of 10k and no hammer fee. Heritage wants 10% of hammer and no reserve.
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 Posted 08/29/2014  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradybigd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also can someone contact Mike Diamond to get his input on potential value of this coin for me. Thanks again!
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That sounds like a better deal to me. I wonder if the auction houses "price match"?
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 Posted 08/29/2014  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since PCGS gave the coin their seal of approval, I can only surmise that they concluded the coin was struck in a dime-sized collar with a smooth working face. As such it would qualify as a "collar mule" (correct dies, wrong collar) which would elevate its value considerably above that of a conventional brockage.
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Since PCGS gave the coin their seal of approval, I can only surmise that they concluded the coin was struck in a dime-sized collar with a smooth working face. As such it would qualify as a "collar mule" (correct dies, wrong collar) which would elevate its value considerably above that of a conventional brockage.

Thank you Mike my concern is Stacks @ bowers had me contact Fred weinstin in California he did not look at coin on pcgs just went by me telling him that it was a 1908 barber first strike brockage. He said it was valued at 2500 to 3500 while Heritage said closer to 15K possibly higher. Why the huge difference? Did I not explain properly to Fred? Also Stacks & Bowers is offering much better rates. Can I expect around the same return from both Auction houses? Thank you Mike
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Amida17 I did find who would catalog it at Heritage it will be Mark Borkhart or Mark Vanwinkle but must likely Borkart. Do you feel Stacks is just as good however? I get much better rates with them
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I'm no dealer, so I can't comment intelligently on its ultimate auction price. I would think $10,000 at a minimum. But you might do considerably better if you re-sumbmitted it to PCGS requesting it be described as having been struck in a smooth collar as well as being an in-collar, first-strike brockage. Collar mules are virtually unknown among U.S. coins. I can't guarantee that PCGS would describe it as such, but it's worth a shot.
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 Posted 08/30/2014  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ALP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$2500-$3000 sounds awfully low for that coin. The Heritage estimate seems much more realistic.
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Can anybody give input if Stacks&Bowers is just as good as Heritage? I am really considering Stacks&Bowers offer. I just dont want to leave money on the table if it could yeild more at Heritage.
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