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Pillar of the Community
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Well I did notice they announced on facebook their upcoming events which was something along the line of August is the release date of the new website and also something about releasing a bluesheet in the near future for everyone to view for free Maybe they'll call it The Blacksheet or the purplesheet or something original like that |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Coinaus, you must have not looked very hard. How about ebay item 261535962828 which is both polished to high heavens and has the green APCGS label. That rubbish is on both ebay US and ebay Australia. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Neal: The photo doesn't show the grade, maybe it's no grade.
Stevo: I think they'll stick with their original naming system and call it abluesheet.
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Australia
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i will steer well clear of that ebay seller |
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Australia
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i think agent 86 (aka maxwell smart ) is a genius APCGS is well and truely the ausssie version of the TPG company NNC |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Agrees Walter, it might be a no grade, but what sensible person would slab such rubbish? If some potential customer walked into your shop asking to get such a common date coin that looks like it was in average condition before it was polished sent off to PCGS what would you do? Fairly certain you would strongly advise against it (as would the other PCGS affiliated dealers in Oz). So APCGS is either for shmuck customers wanting to slab rubbish who don't take advice or is a shmuck outfit (or their affiliated dealers) that won't give good advice.
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PNC King,I just got your very subtle humour. Agent 86 is the code for Authenticity Unverifiable at PCGS.
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Australia
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Stevo: I think they'll stick with their original naming system and call it abluesheet Perhaps they'll skip the colours and take on the market based animal theme ..... an downward market could use abearsheet whereas an upward market would use abullsheet. |
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Australia
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I am toying with the idea of sending some "bodybagged" and polished coins to this outfit.
I'll do a before and after set of images of the coins/slabs.
I will then publish the results on this and an Australian site.
The results could be interesting especially if I add a couple of MS coins to the mix.
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Australia
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It's obvious it has a "details" grade, hence them not showing the label. Looking at the apcgs registry I would say it is a "details grade F-12". Maybe you will have more luck with the other 4. How do you know that they didn't advise the customer that it had been cleaned prior to slabbing and the customer still wanted it slabbed. Finally someone in this group is using their brains and going to try them out and see if they can fool them, instead of bagging them out even when you have not used them.
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I am toying with the idea of sending some "bodybagged" and polished coins to this outfit.
I'll do a before and after set of images of the coins/slabs.
I will then publish the results on this and an Australian site.
The results could be interesting especially if I add a couple of MS coins to the mix. I think that is a great idea, Trout, I have been toying with this idea, as well. Interestingly, does PCGS charge you for bodybagged coins? |
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Interestingly, does PCGS charge you for bodybagged coins? Yes. They're a for-profit company, not a charity. The only times they ever refund fees is if the coin is either (a) submitted for grade re-evaluation and the new grade comes back lower than the old grade, or (b) if a submitted coin is from a series that they do not currently grade (such as ancient Sassanian, for example). Of course, even if they do refund fees, you're still out on shipping each way. They never refund that. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Quote:...How about ebay item 261535962828... That is indeed an APCGS slab - they've cropped of the label but you can still read the APCGS website on the hologram:  That's also the first time I've seen an APCGS slab up close enough to see what the letters in the bottom right corner of the front of their slabs actually say. You certainly can't see any closeups of slabs on the APCGS website. It says "PCCB".  PCCB is a "brand" of Chinese-made pseudo-slabs, deliberately made in the style of PCGS slabs (though made of inferior plastic), which you can buy in bulk from fake warehouse Alibaba. [sarcasm] That's really confidence-inspiring, there. [/sarcasm]. Seriously, if they're using PCCB slabs, there's no way they will be taken seriously - because the only people that use them are counterfeiters and basement slabbers. And anyone in America (or elsewhere) who knows what PCCB means will think this. They'll assume they're a basement slabber, even if they really were trying real hard to be a genuine TPG. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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though made of inferior plastic There made from acrylic, just like all slabs. Acrylic plastic refers to a family of synthetic, or man-made, plastic materials containing one or more derivatives of acrylic acid. The most common acrylic plastic is polymethyl methacrylate (PMMA), which is sold under the brand names of Plexiglas, Lucite, Perspex, and Crystallite. PMMA is a tough, highly transparent material with excellent resistance to ultraviolet radiation and weathering. It can be coloured, moulded, cut, drilled, and formed. These properties make it ideal for many applications including airplane windshields, skylights, automobile taillights, and outdoor signs. I think they have always used a pccb slab, even prior to the current slab. A slab case is just a slab case, it's there to protect the item from getting damaged, nothing else. I don't think the public really care if it has pccb, hiv, or anything else stamped on it as long as their item is safe from being damaged. |
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