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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I sent the Augustus quinarius from the CNG lot out to someone with a steadier hand and more knowledge than me for cleaning the unattractive toning. I am quite pleased with the results but am slightly worried about the dots that were revealed that were hidden previously from the toning. Before   After   |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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did you pay for the vandalism? Or was it a free coin dip?
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Really? Was that necessary?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
579 Posts |
Thank you for your opinion. I am pleased with the coin despite your opinion.
Even if the toning was attractive I most likely would have had it cleaned due to the unnatural and potentially harmful green on the reverse
I am more worried it of modern make rather than genuine now with the appearance of these bumps.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1315 Posts |
Nice cleaning job, but I would say it's not likely to be genuine. This coin having pellets is odd enough, but one being right on the neck is very strange.
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Moderator
United States
23731 Posts |
Excellent job cleaning. It might not be a recent copy, but IMO it's not real.
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Moderator
Australia
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They look for all the world the same as the zinc bubbles you see on corroded modern US cents. And, I suspect, they are there for the same reason: base-metal corrosion underneath a plating. It's a silver coin, dating from a time when the silver coinage was essentially pure silver. They aren't supposed to corrode or go green, at all. So my guess would be that this is a fouree - an ancient plated counterfeit.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
579 Posts |
I had thought that originally Sap but decided to trust CNG that it was good silver. I know group lots don't get the all star treatment but they do inspect all the coins at least briefly. The green I thought was maybe due to improper storage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am inclined to agree with the fouree theory. I am always hesitant where silver is concerned but based on the before pics I feel confident it is probably ancient.
Your after pics were taken too close to the window ! I have seen the same sky blue effect on some photos I have taken. Try taping up a piece of white paper next time to shield the blue sky.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4973 Posts |
it does looks strange...the surface seem a little rough as well maybe? hmmm...don't know.
quite a nice clean up job however WB!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
579 Posts |
The common consensus I have seen so far here and a couple other places that it is a fourree. The suggestion was also brought up that it may have been in a fire based on the original toning and other coins that have been in a fire exhibiting similar bubbling.
I will most likely label it a fourree since that is what I originally thought it to be.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I would be interested to know how this was cleaned. I stick to my original reply, I am shocked at the result. I would consider sending this off to a 'professional'? cleaner and having that sent back as a bit of an insult. It looks like it has been fried with other coins. I would rather have the original coin than the cleaned one. To the forum dad, perhaps it was a sharp reply, but it was a very honest one. Apologies if I offended but after all a forum is a place to share opinions and IMO the cleaned coin, if cleaned by a pro, is not something I would like to see on a day to day basis.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3444 Posts |
Some collectors have always preferred the 'bright' look. For my self not. I prefer a certain amount of oxidation to give that "venerable" look.
At the very least I don't want the thing to look like it was made too recently.
I think the pics and lighting make it look more dazzling than it probably seems in hand. A bit of ye 'olde' cabinet toning will enhance it somewhat.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Your probably right Rufus but it does appear like it has been silver washed from the pictures.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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Valued Member
United States
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I second the opinion it could be a fourree from the plating reacting with the core beneath. A close look under magnification might reveal more.
Ras
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