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 Posted 11/14/2014  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one more that I haven't seen yet.

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Agathocles of Syracuse. It's badly pitted but with a nice pegasus on the reverse. Agathocles started off as a bit of a jerk, and prior to ruling was banished from Syracuse twice. He gathered up a band of mercenaries, promised them he'd follow the democratic constitution after pulling their coup (...) and took over the city, killing a bunch of citizens. He wound up in a war with Carthage that's almost a mini-version of the second Punic war, except when he was besiged in Syracuse and led an attack on Carthage he (after limited initial success) was not victorious. He managed to get a good enough peace treaty that he was confident enough to call himself King of Sicily though, and appears to have been a pretty good tyrant/king besides how he got there in the first place. He didn't think much of his heirs (one of which may have poisoned him) so he returned Syracuse to a democracy on his deathbed.
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 Posted 11/14/2014  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

O.K.- V.C.

I haven't seen one of these yet so here goes. I hope it qualifies. (From what I see it does),

Artaxerxes - Darius II,

Archemenid Empire, The First Persian Empire

Obol, 5.53 gm, AR15




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 Posted 11/15/2014  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

And - Mark Antony?

32-31 BC Denarius

Actium mint

Eagle and Standards
Praetorian Galley



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11/15/2014 12:01 am
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 Posted 11/15/2014  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
axum! how cool, I REALLY want a coin from those guys.
nice play med!
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 Posted 11/15/2014  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rather than showing the well known Denier from Bohemund III, here a not so common crusader coin:


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AE Pougeoise (~1235+) from the County of Tripoli in the period of Bohemund IV (1233-1251)

Obverse: Cross pommettee, pellet in circle at centre, pellet in each quarter, +CIVITAS around
Reverse: Genoese gateway or tower with three cremellations, +TRIPOLIS around

And to show where the County of Tripoli fits in:

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 Posted 11/15/2014  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in line with the rules of being 1600 and older this is my only B coin.

Western Satrap
AR Drachm
Bhartrdaman as Kshatrapa
278-295 AD
Bust of king facing right date at left not visible.
Reverse: Three arched hill, river below, crescent Moon and Sun above.
Brahi Legend: RAJNO MAHAKSHATRAPASA RUDRASENAPUTRASA RAJAH KSHATRAPASA BHARTRDAMNAH. (don't known how they fit that on such a small coin)
2.36 grams x 16 mm

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 Posted 11/15/2014  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is my only B coin that qualifies.

Basil II (976 - 1025)
AE Follis, 976 - 1025, Constantinople, 26mm, 9.34g, 180°, SB 1813.
Obv: Facing bust of Christ, raising hand and holding gospels.
Rev: +IhSUS XRISTUS BASILЄU BASILЄ.
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 Posted 11/15/2014  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I have NEVER seen one of these.

It definitely resonates with me.
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First another 'silly' question to 'Valecrucis':
How to deal with first and surnames? Let me give you two examples:
1. Andrea Contarini, Doge of Venice - here first name, then surname
2. Le Hien-ton, Emperor of Annam - here surname first
My suggestion would be to use the common specification, ie the first name in the standard use of the ruler - ie it would be 'A' and 'L' in the two examples.

But also another 'B' coin, after to 'echizento' for removing Bhartrdaman from my list of options.


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AR Tankah (~5.1g) of Baber ibn Baisunqur ibn Shah Rukh (AH853-AH861 = 1449-1456) from the Timurids of Khorasan

Here a map where Khorasan could be found:

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 Posted 11/15/2014  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Medieval...I agree with your suggestion.

In anticipation of further silly questions...I shall agree with your further suggestions too.
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Quote:
In anticipation of further silly questions...I shall agree with your further suggestions too.




Unfortunately I don't see much of a chance for any further ones.



Oh wait ... perhaps in another topic.
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India, Gujarat
Maitrakas of Valabi (470-800 AD)
In the name of Bhattaraka (470-492)
BI Drachm 12mm x 1.80 grams
Obverse Bust of Bhattaraka wearing satrapal cap, right.-No Legend
Reverse: Trident with curved prongs and side arm, Brahmi legend- RAJNO MAHAKSATRAPA RAMADITYA BHAKTA MAHASAMANTA SRI SARVVA BHATTARAKASA.
Ref: Mitchiner ACW 4892-4896
Note: Rare. Good quality early type, naming Bhattaraka.
ex. Fishman 2013



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CRUSADER STATES
County of Tripoli.
Bohemond VII 1275-1287.
AR Gros 4.26 grams x 25 mm
+ SEPTIMVS:BOEMVNDVS: COMES around cross within 12 polyfoil design.
Reverse.+CIVITAS: TRIPOLIS: SYRIE around castle with turrets within 12 polyfoil design
Ref:Sch.IV.21
Note: Large, old toning.


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 Posted 11/15/2014  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice Basil II follis.
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Got another Ostrogoth ruler for "B":

Baduila, Ostrogothic Kingdom
AE Decanummium
Obv: DN BADV-ELA REX, crowned, draped, bust facing
Rev: DN B/ADV/ELA/REX in four lines within wreath
Mint: Rome (struck 550-552 AD)
Ref: MIB 89a

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From another thread of mine:

Baduila (later known as Totila) was the second to last Ostrogothic king of Italy. He ascended to the throne at a time when the Eastern Roman Empire was about to finish its conquest of Italy (or reconquest, depending on how you look at it). He restrengthened the Ostrogothic war effort, and nearly drove the Romans out of Italy, capturing Rome twice in the last stages of the Gothic War. In 552, Baduila died in combat against the Byzantines at the Battle of Taginae, in central Italy. The weakened Ostrogothic resistance was picked up by Teia, who had served as an officer under Baduila, but Teia himself would be killed in battle several months after him, ending the Ostrogoths' long (and ultimately unsuccessful) struggle to save their kingdom.
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 Posted 11/15/2014  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic coin VK and I have loved learning a little about the history of the Ostrogoths since observing your posts. I knew next to nothing about them before. It seems ironic that though the arch-enemies of the Byzantines, the style of the coinage still bore many similarities to theirs. In that regard they behaved similarly to the Arab-Byzantines and Umayyads in the East. I suppose it was part of the zeitgeist of the era in general as much as that of the Byzantines. Does anyone know what the set of beliefs behind the switch from a profile portrait to a facing portrait were?

Btw. I can't contribute a coin today - no 'B's'. Roll on the 'C's.
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