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The Atlantic Puffin  The Half Puffin  The memory of this peculiar denomination lay buried in my brain until I saw this topic. It also was made as a One Puffin. From Lundy. |
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The roman Quincunx was valued at 5/12ths of an As. I dont own one (they arent easy to come by) but heres an example:  Trademen's tokens go into some odd denominations. It hardly counts, but readers digest issued its readers discount tokens that could be redeemed for books. They had values like £12.97, $2.44 and 8.49F. |
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Nice one 'Ben' but it's really 5 ounces. If one goes by indirect fractions (which are not explicitly stated) then one can get quickly a very long list - just think about all the various fraction (from 1/4 Farthing on) of the LSD system.
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Hamburg 200000 mark notgeld   |
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Medieval - its a complex matter. First off, I will say that the units were based off of the As in the Republic - hence Semis (half), Triens (third) and Quadrans (Quarter). The confusion here arises from the assignment of the ancient word Uncia to the modern unit of the Ounce. The Uncia today is called a Roman Ounce, but to the romans the word actually meant 1/12th - of a Libra, the roman pound. They didnt really have the Ounce unit, Uncia being used as effectively 1/12th of a libra. And the Assarius was 1 Libra. If they needed 3 ounces of something, they'd ask for 3/12ths of a pound - two ways of saying the same thing, but quite distinct.
If you like, I could go for a division of the Uncia, the Siliqua, 1/144th of an Uncia.
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'Ben', while I agree that there is a grey zone, Uncia had become the name of the denomination just like Centimes and Cent nowadays. Would you define a 5 Cent piece as 5/100? Which reminds me, some early American Cents did have 1/100 written on them, would be niece if someone posts one.
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Yes, but Uncia still meant 1/12th at this point. A roman could use the word if he wanted a 12th of a cake, and no one would give him an ounce. A good proof of this usage was that it could be used to say 1/12th of a foot - the word Inch ultimately being derived from this use of Uncia.
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Perhaps a better example than Cent et al would be the various Quarto(s) coins in the Spanish speaking world (or even Mark in the German speaking world). Quarto(s) (and Mark) can have plenty different meanings but within the context of coinage it was a unit denomination (based originally on a quarter).
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Thanks for posting this, can tick off 1/100 now.  |
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  Another coin with dual denomination, 3 Pfenning = 1/120 Thaler 1864 A. Have to dig up a 2 Pfenning with Thaler fraction on it. |
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I was just looking through my foreign typesets and found a 1964 Rhodesia coin that is both 1 Shilling and 10 Cents. Sorry I don't have a photo....
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Yes 'Susuman' there are quite some coins which show two denominations, not sure if there is another US one apart from the Cent (type) shown by 'Arkie'.
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Another 4...   Nepal, 4 paisa, 1955. A one-year type. Edited by nalaberong
12/27/2014 12:50 pm
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