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January 2015 Releases

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 Posted 01/07/2015  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Since when is 20 k "NEW EXTREMELY LOW MINTAGE! " I dont follow the RCM line of thinking on these.. what am I missing here.


I think, for the Annual Silver Dollar, that hasn't been marked as "special edition", like the "Poppy", "Korea" or similar - the 20.000 is limited mintage. Cause usually, the SD has to be affordable, core item and the quantity, that sufficient for everyone. Yeah "extremely limited" - not correct at all.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/07/2015  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The BU and Proof versions of the SD - not a new...

But you right, in the mintage calculation I forgot about BU, that significantly increase the numbers.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Since when is 20 k "NEW EXTREMELY LOW MINTAGE! " I dont follow the RCM line of thinking on these.. what am I missing here.

As Silveroid said, 20,000 is a low maximum mintage for the standard proof commemorative SD (i.e., the one released each year in January). The maximum mintage for the same release over the past few years has been 40,000. So, it's been cut in half for 2015.

The BU mintage at 15,000 is also low. It's 5,000 less vs. last year and 10,000 lower than two years ago.

The RCM also dropped the maximum mintage of the fine silver proof set from 25,000 in 2014 to 20,000 this year.

Considering the potential popularity of the design, it would appear that the RCM is looking to "guarantee" the SDs sell out so that they can tout their "success." Why else drop the mintages for what is expected to be a very popular release?

This one is going to be interesting to watch!


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 Posted 01/07/2015  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope the coloured version of the SD looks better in hand than it does in the video. The colour looked "pixelated" vs. being smooth as the coin was rotated. I guess I'll know the answer in a couple weeks (Hopefully!) when mine is delivered!


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I hope the coloured version of the SD looks better in hand than it does in the video. The colour looked "pixelated" vs. being smooth as the coin was rotated. I guess I'll know the answer in a couple weeks (Hopefully!) when mine is delivered!


You and me both lol, unless they mess up on the delivery date like they sometimes do...
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 Posted 01/07/2015  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's my example of the 2005 enameled SD - it continues to be a very popular SD among collectors!

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 Posted 01/07/2015  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a beautiful example Commems, one I hope to own some day. Unfortunately, the 2015 Colour Proof version does not live up to the 2005 version at all.

I am afraid that this new 2015 Colour Canadian Silver Dollar available in the Proof Set will more resemble the $25 for $25 coin widely panned by collectors on RCM reviews, and the preview I got today of the 2015 SD showed a coin with a pixelated print on the front rather than a nice enamel proof flag. The shadow areas of the flag may/will look dark and smudged as it did with the $25 for $25. Low mintage will cause sell outs, I have opted for the proof in this case due to design, rarity and historical significance.

For $229 they could do much better for the Proof Set than with a pad printed sticker on the 50th Anniv. of the Flag SD, an opportunity missed by the RCM in this case, just my 2 cents.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex A to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SilverDon, does the 2015 SD use a different process for the coloured SD?

If the process has changed, which SD years are enamel proofs?
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 Posted 01/07/2015  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of talk about flag coins...
I can confirm that the centerpiece flag coin on the proof set is a lot nicer in hand (seen at Toronto release event) that the 25 x 25 coin.
Not nearly as much shadowing...none actually...so rest assured it looks far better.
Having said that, SilverDon makes a very cogent argument...why not enamel for this one...
They go enamel with the Hockey Canada coin...why not with this far more significant theme...
And...if I may expand...the fella implanted on some flat perhaps shale rock surface...the backpacker, who could be mistaken as an army cadet - was that the best option in this instance?

I personally like the 1oz John A Mac...looked fabulous in hand...as did the gold coin...
Photo/video does not do justice for the John A Mac coins...

Finally, I don't see any mention of the new UNESCO theme...from anybody...not doing anything for yous eh? Me neither.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverdollarnuts to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I could not resist and ordered all 3 SD....need it to continue my SD collection....pump to get them its been a while.....
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 Posted 01/07/2015  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Alex_A: Here's a link to a post I made about the RCM's enameled silver dollars: https://goccf.com/t/128099

It discusses SDs exclusively - the RCM has issued other enameled coins such as the 2103 Superman Shield coin and last year's Hockey Canada and Great Lakes coins.

The 2015 Flag SD is not enameled.


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 Posted 01/08/2015  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alex A - I wish it was a new method. It seems as if there are two different methods of pad printing at the RCM.
Look at the 25 cent cupro-nickel Scarlet Tanager or Eastern Meadowlark, vivid bright reds and yellows which contrasted well.
Look at this coin, contrast low, colour not bright, pixilated. Not trying to be harsh here, just disappointed.

As I said, I like the design and have ordered the Proof, will likely kick myself when the colour version sells for 4x issue,
mainly due to supply, not appearance.
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 Posted 01/08/2015  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it begins. I wonder what these single Color Flag SD will end up at, seeing the mintage is 20k which is low for these type of sets, I see the 2005 set had a mintage of over 60k and you can buy them for around $100


Augus Coins have a bunch of presale singles on the go atm.

2015 Fine Silver Proof Dollar With Color-50th Anniversary of the Canadian Flag

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2015-Fine-Si...em2348c6027a
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 Posted 01/08/2015  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everything is possible, but I do not see, that this colorization adds value to the design. Regular proof is better looking, IMO. And has same mintage.
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