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I came across this one today.I believe it is a VAM-4,as it has the small dimple next to the "M". The flip it came in has a piece of scrap paper saying it is a UNC65.Being new to this hobby I don't have a clue as to what kind of grade this might bring. What do you all think?  
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The light horizontal parallel light scratches in the fields (both obverse and reverse) suggest to me that someone unfortunately swiped it with a cloth at some point. They're not so bad that it'd necessarily get a "details" annotation, but I can't see it making MS65. A gouge just behind Liberty's nostril and another in front of her ear. Still an attractive coin, clearly uncirculated, might market grade at MS64.
Colligo ergo sum
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I couldn't have said it any better than Lucky Cuss. Bet there's some serious luster to this one. If you're comfortable that it's really the dot, I'm good with VAM-4 as the VAM-3 dot would be noticeably larger in these images.
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I have had a few coins with far less wipe lines get body bagged. Unless the photos are highlighting the lines, and that happens I would say it will "92" at PCGS. "92" is Details Cleaned, good looking coin but the wipes or fine lines in the fields really concern me.
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The reverse looks almost proof-like from those pics.
Edited by The Silver Searcher 01/01/2015 12:10 am
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Thanks for all of your opinions,I really appreciate it. SsuperDdave is right,the luster is strong.Which makes it very difficult to photograph.These two pictures are as close as I can come(with the equipment I have)to what I see in hand. For some reason the other photos seem to increase the 'damaged' look.A tiny little fine line scratch looks,on film,like a deep gouge. If you guys say it could make a MS64,I'll just say WOHOO    Thank you! I see now why this could be an addicting hobby!And I think I'm hooked. Here is close up of the designers M.Sorry for the grainy picture. 
Edited by Cross-eyed 01/01/2015 1:58 pm
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Yeah, that's conclusive for the VAM, but they're common so it's an intellectual exercise. One has to give weight to twohawks' opinion on the lines; he submits a bunch more Morgans to PCGS than you or I do and he'll know what PCGS is doing with that stuff as of today. That said, there is no doubt that digital photography is exacerbating the look.
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Thanks again,SsuperDdave. Like I said,I'm still pretty new at this.All I have, has come from My Fathers collection.This makes only the third one ( VAM) that I have found so far and probably the best example.So whether it's common, or not, I'm proud to have it.  Even if the value won't allow Me to go sign for a new car.  Thanks All!
Edited by Cross-eyed 01/01/2015 3:13 pm
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They're all VAMs, man. Bring 'em on. The worst we can do is admit defeat.
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