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New Ebay Coin Rules Effective 09/17/2007

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 Posted 09/21/2007  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's what rigoletto didn't seem to understand. There are quite a few people who wouldn't disagree with the phrase, 'TPGs are evil', even if some feel they are a necessary evil.
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 Posted 09/21/2007  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Halfabust is better than none is alleged to have written:
quote:

'TPGs are evil', even if some feel they are a necessary evil.


All slabs are for investors and speculators. It doesn't matter what some person tombing coins thinks of a coin, it is only what matters to me that is important.

For example:

New-Ebay-Coin-Rules-Effective-09/17/2007

You can look at 1200 dpi image here:

http://www.geocities.com/scottishmo...9dollar2.jpg

Nice attractive originally toned coin, not cleaned, tooled etc. Some circulation as is obvious. But you would not believe the ridiculous grade this got on the TPG holder it is tombed in.

Care to offer guesses?
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09/21/2007 7:34 pm
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 Posted 09/22/2007  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess.. EF-45?
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 Posted 09/22/2007  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scottishmoney

I would argue with you if my collection was not 99.9 % Raw !

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 Posted 09/22/2007  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Metalman is alleged to have offered the following expression:

quote:
Scottishmoney

I would argue with you if my collection was not 99.9 % Raw !

Metalman


This coin is exactly one of three slabbed(tombed coins) in my collection. By that measure and given the number of coins in my collection/hoard I have 99.9999% raw. I bought the coin here, not the slab.

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 Posted 09/26/2007  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One way to get around the restriction is to do one-day auctions. ebay takes two-three days to investigate. Here's an example for today. This is definitely an MS-65 Morgan.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1921-D-MORGAN-S...15_W0QQitemZ220153727961QQihZ012QQcategoryZ39466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 09/26/2007  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You'll get away with the sale (maybe), but not the infraction. ebay will still kill the listing after it's over and put the mark on your record.
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 Posted 09/26/2007  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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One way to get around the restriction is to do one-day auctions. ebay takes two-three days to investigate. Here's an example for today. This is definitely an MS-65 Morgan.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1921-D-MORGAN-S...cmdZViewItem


One can ponder what NES stands for, many acronyms come to mind in a hurry, but then this is a family friendly group
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 Posted 10/03/2007  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not trying to resurrect this topic, but I ran across the linked ebay listing. Note how this seller responds to the new rules. It's obvious he/she didn't completely read/understand the rules. They interpreted that a numerical grade may not be used anywhere in the listing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/KEY-DATE-1921-D...BU_W0QQitemZ270171494374QQihZ017QQcategoryZ39466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 10/03/2007  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL, that guy is exactly the reason we needed these rules judging from his feedback.

Overgrades consistently.
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 Posted 10/03/2007  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the plot thickens. Our favorite seller "ABONCOM" is passing off bulk lots of his slabbed "gems" to a liquidator. The liquidator is auctioning them off at least 5 at a time (with a plug for ABONCOM). Could this be the beginning of the end for this self-slabber?

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/18...hZ017QQitemZ270172725403QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

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 Posted 10/03/2007  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is in my opinion the beginning of searching for a loophole .

By passing them off to a liquidator all sales will become final at the point of purchase,, the buyer will have little or no recourse and the new policy makes the buyer resposnsible for the grade .

Here is the extent of the guarantee offered for these coins

With your Mint State Slabbed Coin, you will also receive an Official Certificate of Authenticity guaranteeing the authenticity of this coins and guarantees such for the full purchase price for the life of the coins.


I could not find anything further in the listing to cover the buyer in the event of mis representation .

If the seller makes no claims as to grade, then they bare no responsibility to the buyer as to quality .

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 Posted 10/09/2007  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinfest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCI was seriously considered for inclusion...but was dropped at the last moment when JT Stanton left...
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